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Re: [ts-7000] Re: 3.3V 5V ideas

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Subject: Re: [ts-7000] Re: 3.3V 5V ideas
From: David Hawkins <>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:53:24 -0800
Hi Craig,

> Thanks super for the detailed post, David (and for the tip, Mike)
>  
>> Fairchild and TI have many parts that'll work. I'll often
>> use TinyLogic parts from Fairchild as I can scatter the
>> bits around where ever I need them (makes layout dead easy),
>> and they're tolerant to voltages up to 6V.
> 
> Would you be so kind as to give me a couple of part numbers so that I can 
> check out the specs?

How about circuit examples instead:

http://www.ovro.caltech.edu/~dwh/carma_board/gda06rb004_carma_v0.87_dec03.pdf

p12 U38 NC7SZ125P5X tri-state buffer.
     - 3.3V pull-ups on the input also route to a 3.3V FPGA.
     - the output is pulled up to 5.5V
     - the buffer protects the 3.3V FPGA

p12 U100 NC7SZ125P5X
     - buffered signal to increase current drive to multiple loads

p13 U62 NC7SZ384P5X
     - bus-switch
     - 5V or 3.3V signal to 3.3V signal level bidirectional level
       shifting
     - the bus switches are disabled until the board power is
       good

There's a bunch of other parts in there too.

Pericom, TI and Fairchild also have LPT and LCX series parts,
and I believe they're 3.3V powered, but 5V tolerant.
You can use their parametric searches to figure that out.

> I've hand soldered SMT devices to boards, but you describe
> a technique that I haven't used--"use a flux pen to wet
> solder wick and use that to remove the excess solder from
> the pins".  That sounds really clever--how exactly to you
>  "wet solder wick?"  I've been trying to be so compulsive,
> this may help my sanity ;)

Using a flux pen (looks like big an indelible ink marker,
or yellow highlighter pen) you physically dab the pen
on the wick (the copper braided stuff, make sure to
use a thin version), and then its wet.

Now when you touch the soldering iron to the wick, which
is in turn pressed into your horror of a soldering job,
the solder reflows into the wick, leaving just enough
on the pins to keep the part happy, but the shorts at
bay :)

>> Even knowing about solder-mount pads, I would generally
>> not use them anymore. I find it much simpler to layout
>> a simple PCB with headers, and whatever power-sources
>> I decide to put on it.
>>
>> Check out http://www.barebonespcb.com
> 
> Thanks, David.  I use gEDA and have fab houses build the
> boards, but I've been so into the whole breadboard it all
> up first concept that I hadn't really thought how cost
> effective it would be to hybrid breadboard/circuit fab.
>  What a great idea.

Its so much nicer to have a bunch of little PCBs with
serial translators with DB9s and headers etc lying around
than it is to have veroboard monstrocities :)

Cheers,
Dave







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