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[ts-7000] Re: 0.68 secs Booting Time for ts7800: REALLY?

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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: 0.68 secs Booting Time for ts7800: REALLY?
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Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:18:33 -0000
Hello Jason and thank you very much for your response,

To be honest, I did not expect such many services to be initialized at
booting time, just my Webcam driver and the udev system. So I could run
my script to capture video, images, etc, located at the SD card.

But the problem as you said is that I need the SD card to be mounted and
that takes some time.

Thanks for the expert insight,

Magda
--- In  Jason Stahls <> wrote:
>
>  wrote:
> > After spending lots of time on the ts-7800.. I think, what embedded support 
> > means about "booting time" is the time that it takes to load the kernel 
> > image, that DOES NOT include a lot of initialization processes..
> >
> > So being able to do something meaningful with the ts-7800 board will take 
> > much more that 0.68 secs. I would say that at least 10 secs are needed for 
> > having for example the SD card mounted and to execute things like your own 
> > init scripts..etc.
> >
> > This is very disappointing.. and not clear when they advertise the ts-7800 
> > board. If someone has any ideas on how to reduce this booting time please 
> > let us know.
> >
> > I hope this post would be useful for people to find out about the real 
> > ts-7800 capabilities.
> 
> If you honestly expect any device with a OS as intricate as Linux to 
> totally boot with printing, file sharing, wireless, or whatever in less 
> then 10 seconds then I think you'd better re-examine your plan.  My 
> cable box takes almost 5 seconds to boot and I highly doubt it's running 
> any kind of OS.  Heck, I've built systems based on Microchip PIC's that 
> can take upwards of ten seconds to become "fully functional" just due to 
> the initialization and settling time of the other devices on the board.
> 
> Now, I don't have a TS7800, but I would assume that their 0.68 second 
> time is to load the fastboot kernel and environment, not a full debian 
> system.  From fastboot you could load your application, I do have a 
> TS7200 and the application it runs will load in either TS-Linux or 
> Debian with TS-Linux being far faster then Debian since the debian 
> install is totally loaded from CF.  Debian is booted for making changes 
> in the field for me (it was installed a good 1000-1500km from the shop 
> in the middle of nowhere) with normal operation booting from flash.  
> Flash bootup, about 5-6 seconds minus my application init, debian is 
> closer to 15-20 seconds.
> 
> So I guess what I'm getting at is please don't exepect to load a system 
> from SD and have it boot in .68 seconds :)  It's just not practical, not 
> even for a modern dual-core desktop let alone a embedded device.  If you 
> really find you need to run from SD then make sure you disable 
> _everything_ you don't need.  Also recompile your kernel removing any 
> extras you're not using and remove or don't insert modules you're not using.
> 
> -- 
> Jason Stahls
>




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