ts-7000
[Top] [All Lists]

[ts-7000] Re: modern tools (i.e. openembedded)

To:
Subject: [ts-7000] Re: modern tools (i.e. openembedded)
From: "charliem_1216" <>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:55:00 -0000
--- In  "Christopher Friedt" <>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Jeff Stearns <> wrote:
> > I'm wondering about TS.  I imagine that they're stretched very
thin just
> > trying to cobble together the software for their boards.  Would 

I agree also, but for different reasons.  (IMHO) TS doesn't see a big
need to 'embrace' or maintain a current kernel or dev system: just
qualify a kernel & toolchain for a certain board family, then ship it
and keep it stable forever.   This is at odds with the background that
some customers come from, where they expect ongoing latest updates.

they support
> > this effort?  Would they consider dropping Debian and embracing
> > OpenEmbedded?
> > - jeff

I don't see TS doing this (see above).  

> 
> OpenEmbedded actually uses an embedded version (opkg, formerly ipkg)
> of Debian's package manager (dpkg). The distribution of binary files
> is very similar, but OpenEmbedded uses BitBake as its build system,
> which was actually based on Gentoo's Portage. OE makes building and
> maintaining packages much easier, while Opkg makes distributing binary
> packages and upgrading live systems much easier.

I haven't used OE for a few years, since playing around with a Linksys
router.  At the time, things were not documented very well but I
muddled through it.  Hopefully there is some hand-holding
documentation for people new to OE.

> 
> Actually, I just did some quick searches, and the ep93xx chips are
> already supported in u-Boot. Furthermore, another quick search showed
> that other ep93xx boards are already in the OE database.
> 
> In my opinion, everybody wins with a switch to OE. It's hard to debate
> that it has become the de-facto standard on everything embedded from
> the Linksys WRT54GL to the Neo FreeRunner.

I would not expect much support from TS in this area, but then again,
I don't think much is really needed.  Once a clear howto is put up and
people see how easy the build system *can* be, TS might even adopt it
for new boards.  I think TS would *like* one code base for x86, ARM,
PowerPC, etc.  After all, they came around with a TS 2.6 kernel for
the ep93xx boards, after seeing community involvement there.


Regards, ........ Charlie

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ts-7000/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ts-7000/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
     
    

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
Admin

Disclaimer: Neither Andrew Taylor nor the University of NSW School of Computer and Engineering take any responsibility for the contents of this archive. It is purely a compilation of material sent by many people to the birding-aus mailing list. It has not been checked for accuracy nor its content verified in any way. If you wish to get material removed from the archive or have other queries about the archive e-mail Andrew Taylor at this address: andrewt@cse.unsw.EDU.AU