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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: TS-7300 boots slowly due to several /sbin/hotplug usb
From: "spincycl_2002" <>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:47:37 -0000
THATS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM - a "sometimes" slow boot up on a 7300.  
Those usb agents are SUPPOSED to spawn when a NEW device is added.  
Tonight I was trying to solve this problem, but one time I actually 
had it in a perpetual loop re-spawning the agents continuously.  
After 15 minutes it still had 12 or so of them running.   

The most annoying thing is that the behavior is NOT consistant.   The 
type/brand of devices does not seem to make much difference 
(according to my tests).

so, here are some observations that may be of interest to you:

1.  A hub will almost always slow it down.  If you have ONLY 2 
devices plugged into the 7300 it's not bad at all.  But, even 6 or 4 
port mini-hubs will usually DOUBLE the slowdown - or worse.   My 4 
port hub is a "little" less noticable than the 6 port.

2.  The top and bottom port on the 7300 are NOT exactly the same in 
some respects.   I find that mounting flash drives always works when 
using the lower port.   But, I have had LOTS of times where I simply 
could not use any flash drive in the top port.   

3.  I have found that it is better to let the USB agents run in 
the "quickboot" mode.  I just let all of the usb-stuff get sorted 
before I type "exit".   The overall  boot time is actually better 
than just letting it jump into the SD card boot sequence.



I wonder if there are any PC104 add-on cards that work with the 7300.
Nowadays, USB is a nessesity for any system - and just two ports is 
not enough.


Thanks for the great forum, everybody.!




--- In  "Andy Mercier" <> 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I've noticed that the two TS-7300s we have will occasionally boot up
> extremely slow and other times boot up faster.
> 
> They are both booting from the SD card and there are no jumpers on
> JP1-6 and we use the VGA video. The SD cards are loaded with Debian
> 3.1 (Sarge) and they're in the stock configuration from Technologic
> Systems. The slowness is noticeable very early in the boot process.
> 
> Fortunately, there may be a hint to what's going on since we're able
> to log in and check which processes are running. Here's the result 
of
> a "ps axf" command (edited to just show the commands running and 
their
> relationships):
> 
> [keventd]
>  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
>  |   \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
>  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
>  |   \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
>  |       \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
>  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
>  |   \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
>  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
>      \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
> 
> Eventually they go away but the system runs slowly until they're 
gone.
> We can kill them and it doesn't appear to interfere with anything.
> BTW, the PIDs for many of the user processes are really high when we
> check ps, values that are 18000+. It appears something is "spawning"
> processes like crazy!
> 
> The uptime command shows just how much load created since I got high
> numbers like 4.43.
> 
> We've tried different keyboards and mice and it doesn't affect the
> frequency that this happens.
> 
> We'd rather not have these running during boot up since it appears
> unnecessary and slows the system down. Any thoughts on a fix?
> 
> ----
> Andy
>



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