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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: TS-7300 boots slowly due to several /sbin/hotplug usb
From: "Andy Mercier" <>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:24:24 -0000
I still see it happen but haven't found a way to make it happen on
demand. I'm using completely different hardware on a newer system
(mouse, keyboard and TS-7300) than when I first reported the problem.
Your observations match mine. I don't have a hub in my newest system
and I haven't seen it happen nearly as often as I did on the previous
system.

----
Andy

--- In  "spincycl_2002" <> wrote:
>
> THATS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM - a "sometimes" slow boot up on a 7300.  
> Those usb agents are SUPPOSED to spawn when a NEW device is added.  
> Tonight I was trying to solve this problem, but one time I actually 
> had it in a perpetual loop re-spawning the agents continuously.  
> After 15 minutes it still had 12 or so of them running.   
> 
> The most annoying thing is that the behavior is NOT consistant.   The 
> type/brand of devices does not seem to make much difference 
> (according to my tests).
> 
> so, here are some observations that may be of interest to you:
> 
> 1.  A hub will almost always slow it down.  If you have ONLY 2 
> devices plugged into the 7300 it's not bad at all.  But, even 6 or 4 
> port mini-hubs will usually DOUBLE the slowdown - or worse.   My 4 
> port hub is a "little" less noticable than the 6 port.
> 
> 2.  The top and bottom port on the 7300 are NOT exactly the same in 
> some respects.   I find that mounting flash drives always works when 
> using the lower port.   But, I have had LOTS of times where I simply 
> could not use any flash drive in the top port.   
> 
> 3.  I have found that it is better to let the USB agents run in 
> the "quickboot" mode.  I just let all of the usb-stuff get sorted 
> before I type "exit".   The overall  boot time is actually better 
> than just letting it jump into the SD card boot sequence.
> 
> 
> 
> I wonder if there are any PC104 add-on cards that work with the 7300.
> Nowadays, USB is a nessesity for any system - and just two ports is 
> not enough.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the great forum, everybody.!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In  "Andy Mercier" <andynmercier@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've noticed that the two TS-7300s we have will occasionally boot up
> > extremely slow and other times boot up faster.
> > 
> > They are both booting from the SD card and there are no jumpers on
> > JP1-6 and we use the VGA video. The SD cards are loaded with Debian
> > 3.1 (Sarge) and they're in the stock configuration from Technologic
> > Systems. The slowness is noticeable very early in the boot process.
> > 
> > Fortunately, there may be a hint to what's going on since we're able
> > to log in and check which processes are running. Here's the result 
> of
> > a "ps axf" command (edited to just show the commands running and 
> their
> > relationships):
> > 
> > [keventd]
> >  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
> >  |   \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
> >  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
> >  |   \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
> >  |       \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
> >  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
> >  |   \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
> >  \_ /bin/sh /sbin/hotplug usb
> >      \_ /bin/sh /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
> > 
> > Eventually they go away but the system runs slowly until they're 
> gone.
> > We can kill them and it doesn't appear to interfere with anything.
> > BTW, the PIDs for many of the user processes are really high when we
> > check ps, values that are 18000+. It appears something is "spawning"
> > processes like crazy!
> > 
> > The uptime command shows just how much load created since I got high
> > numbers like 4.43.
> > 
> > We've tried different keyboards and mice and it doesn't affect the
> > frequency that this happens.
> > 
> > We'd rather not have these running during boot up since it appears
> > unnecessary and slows the system down. Any thoughts on a fix?
> > 
> > ----
> > Andy
> >
>



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