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3. Re: Lesser birds

Subject: 3. Re: Lesser birds
From: "Wilbur Hershberger" wil_hershberger
Date: Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:19 am ((PST))
Bernie,
I would certainly think that some, or most, of your early recordings in mar=
ginally/minimally disturbed habitats would be the best baseline that we hav=
e access too. From these, and subsequent recordings from the same, or nearb=
y locations, we may be able to extrapolate what truly undisturbed habitats =
were like.
Unfortunately, we=92ll never know the species richness and individual numbe=
rs of animals that must have existed before human occupation.


Wil Hershberger

             

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Bernie Krause  [natur=
erecordists] <> wrote:
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> The problem to rethink is the entire concept of =93baseline.=94 With even=
ts changing consequences so rapidly, what constitutes baseline data, now?
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> Bernie Krause
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>> On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:13 AM, Gianni Pavan  <mailto=
:> [naturerecordists] <=
om <>> wrote:
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>> The decline in insects and birds, and frogs too, is clearly evident also=
 here, in Italy. We have to completely rethink our societal development and=
 understand that our life and our health and also our happiness depends on =
nature.. Now we also have understood (too late and not enough) that also ou=
r climate depends on nature and that any impact we produce on the biosphere=
 has an impact on our own lives and even more on future generations. Sounds=
capes reflect habitat quality, richness, and diversity. Raquel Carson was a=
 pioneer. Silent springs are now a sad reality.
>> We need to put all the energy we have in educating people to understand =
that our health and happiness depend more on the health of nature than on t=
he size of our tv or on what we can buy on amazon.
>> Hope we all have a nice Christmas and a Happy New Year,
>> Gianni Pavan
>>
>>
>> Il giorno dom 22 dic 2019 alle ore 00:39  <ba=
> [naturerecordists] < <m=
ailto:>> ha scritto:
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>> Well said Caspar! additional benefits of such simple actions include cle=
an air and water, flood control, aquifer recharge, and much more.
>>
>> Guy
>>
>> On 12/21/2019 6:24 PM, rapsac  <=
d.net> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>> Create good beetle habitat and other biodiversity will follow: messy un=
managed woodland, hollow logs, permanent wetlands, meadows. Preferably all =
of the above within a small area. If you have a garden that is a good place=
 to start.
>>>
>>> Caspar
>>>
>>> On 2019-09-24 12:53, Martyn Stewart  <mstew=
@naturesound.org> [naturerecordists] wrote:
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowspiracy <https://en.m.wikipedia.org=
/wiki/Cowspiracy>
>>>>
>>>> Try a plant based diet x
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> Please excuse my spelling on this tiny keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Martyn Stewart  <mai=
lto:> [naturerecordists] <=
..com <>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Animal agriculture x
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> Please excuse my spelling on this tiny keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 1:58 PM,  <weaveofkev@=
gmail.com> [naturerecordists] < <nat=
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The inevitable seems to be nearing quicker as we push this issue asi=
de habitually. Reading about the declining bird population and the stories =
of their lack of presence at places where we=92d expect to hear them is a n=
ightmare come to life.
>>>>>> I don=92t want to shrug and hope anymore. I truly wish there was a w=
ay I could help and make a bigger difference than just recycling, compostin=
g and riding or walking as oppose to driving. It doesn=92t seem sufficient =
enough.
>>>>>>
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