Hi Angie,
I got your email, but your message is somehow connected to Peter Shute as y=
ou can see bellow! Can you please send me the email again so I can respond =
if I need to.
See you tomorrow.
Munir.
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Angelina Mertens <> wro=
te:
>
> Yes, a very dumb mistake. I plugged them both in on the off chance it mig=
ht work. I tapped the mic, and saw the level meters move. I tapped the dete=
ctor, and saw them move again. But of course they were just registering the=
sound of the detector's *speaker* via the microphone!
>
> I've just finished the attenuating cable, and it's all working nicely now=
via the mic jack. Thanks for your help, everybody.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 31 Mar 2016, at 7:28 AM, Dan Dugan <=
n.com> [naturerecordists] <<naturere=
>> wrote:
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> That=92s normal for portable recorders. I was scratching my head when you=
reported mixing=85
>
> -Dan
>
> > On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Peter Shute <pshut=
> [naturerecordists] <<n=
>> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's time to give up on this idea of simultaneously recording f=
rom Mic and Line In sockets. I was mistaken, and it appears the Mic socket =
takes precedence.
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 30 Mar 2016, at 8:49 PM, Peter Shute <pshute=
@nuw.org.au><> [naturerecordists] <naturerecordists=
@yahoogroups.com<><mailto:naturereco=
>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Something I've noticed is that a mic wired to right channel only shows =
some cross talk to the left channel in the M10's meters. I haven't checked =
to see if it'll be audible, but I suspect not. I didn't notice similar cros=
s talk on the line in input. If this cross talk normal for the M10?
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 29 Mar 2016, at 8:51 PM, Peter Shute <pshute=
@nuw.org.au><><m("nuw.org.au","pshute");">> [naturerec=
ordists] <<=
ups.com><><m("y","naturerecordists");=">=
ahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > It appears that I may not need anything this complicated. I just tried =
the detector plugged into Line In of the M10, and the microphone simultaneo=
usly plugged into the mic jack, and it recorded from both. Is that the usua=
l thing with recorders that you can do that? So it appears all I have to do=
is wire up the microphone so it only feeds the right track, as the mono so=
cket I fitted to the bat detector is already feeding that only to the left.=
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 28 Mar 2016, at 4:25 AM, Dan Dugan <=
gan.com><><m("dandugan.com","dan");">><m("dandu","dan");=">=
gan.com> [naturerecordists] <<nature=
><><mailto=
:><>=
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92d suggest building an attenuating cable.
> >
> > 33K on the input shunted to ground with 100 ohms will give you 50 dB of=
attenuation.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >> On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:26 PM, Peter Shute <psh=
><><m("nuw.org.au","pshute");">><mailto:=
> [naturerecordists] <<mai=
lto:><=
om><><m("yahoog","naturerecordists");=">=
roups.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, Dan. The Shure A15LA is XLR to XLR. I need to connect 3.5mm to=
3.5mm, so I'd need adapters too, making it quite bulky. Looking at the sim=
ple circuit design on the side of the barrel, I might be better off just ad=
ding a couple of resistors inside the bat detector. But maybe that type of =
attenuator would prevent it being able to drive its own speaker? If so, I g=
uess I could monitor via the recorder output instead.
> >>
> >> I saw a page suggesting 33k ohms in series, with 100 ohms in parallel =
would reduce it by 50dB. Sound right?
> >>
> >> Peter Shute
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 27 Mar 2016, at 9:56 AM, Dan Dugan <=
ugan.com><><m("dandugan.com","dan");">><m("dand","dan");=">=
ugan.com><> [naturerecordists] <=
oogroups.com<><mailto:naturerecordis=
><><mailto:naturer=
><>> wrote:=
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Direct boxes are generally intended to connect a high-impedance input =
like an electric guitar to a low-impedance balanced mic input.
> >>
> >> The best solution for line-to-mic is an XLR attenuator barrel designed=
for that purpose-meaning instead of 10 or 20 dB attenuation it has 40 or 5=
Message: 0.
Subject: Shure A15LA, 50 dB.
> >>
> >> -Dan
> >>
> >> On Mar 25, 2016, at 11:15 AM, <=
awaii.rr.com><><m("hawaii.rr.com","benedict");">>=
<><m("hawaii.rr.com","benedict");">> [naturerecor=
dists] <<=
s.com><><m("yah","naturerecordists");=">=
oogroups.com><><mailto:naturerecordi=
>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's new to me, too, so someone please point out where I'm wrong.
> >>
> >> You're looking for whats called a "direct box". It lets you plug a lin=
e level signal in one end, and get a mic level signal out the other.
> >>
> >> If you do a Google search on "line in to mic in converter" you get a b=
unch of info on direct boxes, as well as schematics for building your own. =
The schematics run the gamut from simple voltage dividers to transformers t=
o op-amp driven circuits. The direct boxes also run the gamut from XLR-to-T=
S, 1/8"-to-1/8", single channel, dual channel, etc. So you can either build=
your own or buy one off the shelf, regardless of what your setup is.
> >>
> >> Good news is these are common tools in the music industry, so if you h=
ave a music store in town they're likely to have an assortment to choose fr=
om. Even better, you can bring your bat gear (which you get extra points fo=
r if you wear on your Bat Belt), and test it out.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
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> >> Posted by: Peter Shute <<><ma=
ilto:><><m("nuw.org.au","pshute");">>=
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> >>
> >> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krau=
se.
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> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kraus=
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