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Re: underwater stereo recordings and phase

Subject: Re: underwater stereo recordings and phase
From: madl74
Date: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:27 pm ((PDT))
Russell Dawkins  [naturerecordists] writes:

> David,
>
> It seems to be reflections from the surface (or any other reflective surf=
ace) would be antiphase only at certain frequencies for a given distance, o=
r at certain distances for any given frequency and cannot accurately be des=
cribed simply as 'in antiphase'. Moreover, given the speed of sound in wate=
r is roughly four times faster than the speed in air, the wavelengths would=
 be roughly a quarter as long, not four times as long.

Russell,

Tackling these in reverse order:

lambda =3D v / f therefore the higher the velocity the longer the wavelengt=
h.
See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength
so we are recording wavelengths in water 4.4 times longer than they would b=
e
in air.

Phase of reflections: Please bear with me.

Phase can only be described in comparison with a reference point or wave.
Sound is a longitudinal wave (light being a transverse wave) and when it is=

reflected from a heavy solid surface, the highs and lows of the incoming an=
d
outgoing waves have to be equal at the instant of reflection.

What causes reflection? In short, an abrupt change in impedance. This used=

to be important in long distance telephone circuits which standardised at
600 Ohms impedance.

With sound which travels through different media, any step in acoustic
vibration impedance or "characteristic impedance" will cause a reflection o=
f
the sound energy. In water, sounds can be reflected by, say, the sides of a=

swimming pool which are of higher impedance than water. At the surface, the=

air has a lower impedance and there will be a reflection back down into the=

water.

Ignoring sound or vibration absorption, the total energy of a sound path
must be accounted for.

Bouncing from medium impedance to high impedance (water to concrete) divide=
s
the sound energy into a small part penetrating the concrete where the
surface molecules store the incoming energy and reflect most of it back int=
o
the water. A moment of high pressure is reflected as high pressure.

At a water/air boundary, there is a mismatch the other way and the air
cannot temporarily store the absorbed energy so it is returned to the water=

as a reflection. This means, at the moment of reflection, a negative
antiphase reflected pressure is formed in the water as the sum total energy=

has to be constant.

What results is a reflection below the air/water surface. This energy has t=
o
go somewhere at the speed of sound in water, and it becomes a reflection
downwards. With zero net energy stored at the surface, this refection has t=
o
be in antiphase. QED.

The part frequency plays is in the path length when positive and or negativ=
e
reflections interact. Underwater, you are in a maze of interfering paths.

As soon as you dip a hydrophone mic rig into water, you are listening to a=

different world. The antiphase surface reflection tends to cancel out the
wanted underwater sounds. The wavelenght at 1 KHz becomes 1.5 metres, makin=
g
interference extinctions and maxima much more prominent. The binaural mic
separation changes from 170 mm in air to 750 mm in water.

Add in-phase and antiphase reflections and it is not surprising that
underwater stereo is not as straighfrward as in air.

Listen out in a swimming pool and see if the water borne noise seems to 
rise in frequency after a dive. That's the surface reflections and the 
environment the underwater stereo mic rig has to contend with.

David Brinicoombe











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sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.



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