"Real world" self-noise of BP4025?

["Jamie Drouin" infrequency_recordings]

I remember coming across a conversation a while back (but cannot locate it =
again) about the =93real world=94 self noise of the BP4025 being much lower=
 than Audio Technica quotes in the specs (14dB). Certainly, my own experien=
ce with this mic is that I never hear any sign of noise, even at high gain.

I=92m trying to decide between a regular or low-noise version of the Naiant=
 tinybox to use with the BP4025 as a =91stealth=92 setup. On paper, the BP4=
025 does not require the low-noise amp, but wondered what other people=92s =
tests of this mic have revealed?

Cheers,
Jamie