Hi norman,
I need too simplify this and disregard the sound character of ME and MKH:
If you put a pair of ME62 beside a pair of MKH20 outside my house,
at this time of the year, the noise from both mic pairs will drown in
noise from aspen leaves.
But if the aspen leaves calm down, the mic noise will not drown in
the noise from a bypassing car, even if the car noise is much louder
than the aspen leaves. The difference between the car noise and mic
noise would be too big. The mic noise would come on top of the car
noise, added to it.
"Masking" is a question of both level and freq. spectrum.
If it was totally quiet around, only the very distant traffic noise,
you would certainly hear the inherent noise difference between ME and MKH.
Klas.
At 23:41 2013-05-20, you wrote:
>hi, I'm going to "stick my thought knife right into this subject",
>it's been boggling my mind for ages as I've read lots of posts here
>from some very well educated thinkers.
>
>As I hear it, I'm always listening to a full combine of sound
>energy. I've tried differentiating between "thresholds" of induced
>noise levels, and I've tried separately being mathematical about it
>too, I really have.
>
>My problem with the educated logic I've heard so far is that as I
>see it, when I'm listening to the energy entering my ears, I'm only
>aware of the total additive mass of it.
>
>For me, noise masking is an academic dead end. I understand, from
>the principles of 'data reduced' audio storage formats, that there
>are psychoacustic factors that can be bundled up into theoretical
>sumations of reproduction perception. I get the idea that we can be foole=
d.
>
>I also get the idea that I'm sick and fed up of being fooled, too.
>
>I can't, for the life of me, see how a "noise" threshold level, at
>any measure below any other threshold level, can just be dismissed
>as incalculable. For me, that's academic idiocy.
>
>If you can hear it, it noise.
>
>The fact that there are other noises in the spectrum, doesn't mask
>anything. It's additive. If an orchestra of "noises" played
>together, would you ignore all but the loudest component ?
>
>I don't think so.
>
>norman.
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