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Re: New Telinga PIP Stereo preamp. & EIN

Subject: Re: New Telinga PIP Stereo preamp. & EIN
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:17 pm ((PST))
Correction:

The principle was used decades ago,

should be: The principle with adding a mic preamp to another mic
preamp was used decades ago...

when all professional nature recordists had problems with the input
noise of the Nagra III. Sten Wahlstr=F6m then designed a very low noise
preamp using a transformer and the lowest noise input transistor that
the time could offer, 2n930. I don't think it amplified more than 20
dB, but it was enough.

I am now comparing a SSM system connected directly to the Sony D-50,
rated as one of the best recorders with it's -126 dBu. Another SSM
system is connected via the Telinga preamp to a Zoom H4n, rated -107
dBu. I will also try the SSM via the Telinga preamp with a Zoom video
camera q3HQ, input noise unknown, and I wish lend a Zoom H2, which
Raimund rated to -99dBu.

If the Telinga preamp "makes a D-50 out of a Zoom H2 and a strange
video camera", why not?

Klas.


At 16:00 2013-01-21, you wrote:
>That would be nice, but unfortunately I can't buy every piece of
>equipment that might be of use in order to test it. It helps me to
>understand the numbers so I can at least make a semi-educated
>determination as to whether a particular product is going to be worth the =
cost.
>
>With a microphone going into a preamp going into a preamp it looks
>to me like one wants to know the EIN of the first preamp in order to
>make sure it is a good match for the microphone. The EIN of the
>second preamp (recorder) doesn't matter so much because the output
>noise of the first preamp will likely be way higher (depending on
>how much gain is applied) than the EIN of the second preamp.
>
>Thanks!
>
>John
>
>--- In  "Avocet"  wrote:
> >
> > The ultimate test is your ears. Forget the theory and use a test sound
> > that you can reproduce and record it at various settings, then listen
> > back at the same level and hear the hiss.
> >
> > David
> >
> > David Brinicombe
> > North Devon, UK
> > Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
> >
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>
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>
>
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sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.



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