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From: "Dan Dugan" dandugan_1999
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:32 am ((PST))
> Robin, one thing that I miss a lot, are block diagrams describing 
> recorders. It would, for example, improve my understanding where, in 
> the chain, that self noise is produced.
> Dan, as a Nagra service man, can you get such diagrams over Nagra 
> recorders, if you want to? Even more detailed?

I could, but I don't think it would be very helpful. On the recorder end things 
are pretty simple. If the noise in the recorder's signal chain isn't dominated 
by the noise of its mic preamp, its broken. You'd have to turn a recorder's 
gain down below 30% or so to get into that condition; but when you have a loud 
source, input noise is inconsequential.

Digital gain control after the converters the way some recorders do adds a 
complication; it's like what you might do in post processing but in the 
recorder before the file is written. I can see that as being useful if you 
wanted to end up with a finished production level in the box, like if you were 
producing a podcast that you would edit in your recorder or smart phone and 
post directly to the web. But it's much better to record at conservative levels 
in the recorder and do post work in post, when you are in a predictable 
environment.

It would be very useful for those who do technical tests on field recorders to 
discover, in recorders with digital gain controls, what the unity gain setting 
is; that is, the gain setting that makes the converters' clipping point match 
full scale code.

-Dan





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