IPhone has no recording level control?
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of vickipowys
> Sent: Friday, 7 December 2012 6:44 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: iRig pre
>
>
>
> Peter,
>
> I can't see why you could not plug an ME66 directly into an
> IPhone (with a specialized lead), but the advantage of the
> IRig is that you can also control the recording levels.
>
> Vicki
>
> On 06/12/2012, at 7:35 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>
> > Would you be able to plug an ME66/K6 directly into an
> iPhone, assuming
> > you had the right connector for plugging a mic into a mic/ headset
> > socket? Or is that what the iReg pre is acting as in this case?
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> vickipowys
> >> Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 7:08 AM
> >> To:
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: iRig pre
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan,
> >>
> >> All the advertising for the iRig Pre indicates that yes indeed you
> >> could connect a Sennheiser ME66 to an iPhone. The iRig has
> optional
> >> power supply, you would switch it off if the mic supplied its own
> >> power. Yes you do need the K6 unit with the ME66, I would
> recommend
> >> the one that uses its own battery power, 1 x AA battery lasts for
> >> ages if you remember to switch it off between recording sessions.
> >> You can also bypass the AA battery to use 48V phantom power.
> >> If you intend to eventually use the ME66 with a smaller flash card
> >> recorder then you would definitely need the AA battery-powered K6
> >> unit. Rode made handles and softie windshields that are
> much cheaper
> >> than Rycote or Sennheiser.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps!
> >>
> >> Vicki
> >>
> >> On 06/12/2012, at 12:15 AM, symmerista wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Edutige does in fact do nothing more than amplifying
> >> the iphone's
> >>> sound. This does increase my students' ability to identify
> >> unknowns,
> >>> but post-processing, e.g., through Audacity, is probably at
> >> least as
> >>> helpful.
> >>>
> >>> My apologies for being dense here (ever since I lost
> hearing in one
> >>> ear I've 'focused' almost entirely on the visual rather
> >> than the audio
> >>> in the field), but if I splurged on the Sennheiser ME66
> (and the K6
> >>> too, I presume?), could I use the iRig Pre to connect it to
> >> my iPhone?
> >>> I realize that might be overkill, but for now that would clean my
> >>> budget out, and I could then start saving up for a proper
> recorder.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>> --- In
> >>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , vickipowys
> >> <> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Alan,
> >>>>
> >>>> The Edutige mic looks intriguing. I had a listen to a sample
> >>>> recording but it seems to me that the hiss-noise increases
> >> along with
> >>>> the stronger signal from the mic, so it is not doing much
> >> more than
> >>>> amplifying the sound you are already getting from the
> >> iPhone. All the
> >>>> same, such gadgets can be useful to documenting wildlife
> sounds if
> >>>> nothing else is available. You would probably find the
> >> windshield is
> >>>> inadequate, but better than nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to use a larger better quality mic you have to
> >> consider
> >>>> handling noise and most likely you would need a handle
> and shock-
> >>>> mount for it, and a decent wind cover such as one of the 'softie'
> >>>> types. By the time you have all of that (e.g. Sennheiser
> >> ME66 gun mic
> >>>> is a great field mic for species recording), then you
> >> might as well
> >>>> go with a purpose-built recorder such as Sony or Olympus
> >> or whatever
> >>>> (lots of references on this list), and you can then set
> >> the recording
> >>>> sample rate to 96 K which will be useful for insect recordings.
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, you can probably do quite a lot with the
> iPhone and it
> >>>> would be no worse than the equipment that many of us
> >> started out with
> >>>> e.g. hissy cassette recorders and tie-pin microphones.
> >>>>
> >>>> good luck!
> >>>>
> >>>> Vicki
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/11/2012, at 9:06 AM, symmerista wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm intrigued by the iRig Pre. For my field biology class
> >> I bought a
> >>>>> $30 Edutige EIM-001 i-Microphone for my iPhone, and it
> definitely
> >>>>> made sounds somewhat louder, which helped for our main
> >> purposes of
> >>>>> recording unknown animals for later identification. The
> >> Edutige also
> >>>>> worked with most of my students' various Android phones,
> >> though it's
> >>>>> not marketed as such. Any chance that the iRig likewise has
> >>>>> unadvertised Android compatibility?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My main question, however, is what microphone would be a good,
> >>>>> inexpensive choice to connect to an iphone/iRig setup. My
> >>>>> objectives, for now, are not to produce "publication quality"
> >>>>> sounds, but to capture good-quality sounds of birds, singing
> >>>>> insects, frogs and toads for documentation and identification
> >>>>> purposes. Portability is important, as I also lug around
> >> a fair bit
> >>>>> of camera equipment. I've looked at the specs of many different
> >>>>> mikes, but after a while my head starts spinning as I
> don't know
> >>>>> nearly enough to decide which pros and cons are most relevant!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In
> >>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
> >> <maxcatterwell@>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did further testing last night, and decided to take another
> >>>>>> approach this morning. Instead of starting from low
> >> level (2 or 3)
> >>>>>> on the LS-10, I set iRig to minimum and maxed Olympus to
> >> 10. I then
> >>>>>> slowly increased gain while studying the signal level on the
> >>>>>> Olympus. I then compared recordings using spectogram view on
> >>>>>> Audition. Although not particularly scientific, I'm of
> >> the opinion
> >>>>>> that this method produces quieter results. I need to
> >> re-do the last
> >>>>>> test tonight to confirm my opinion. I would really love
> >> for one of
> >>>>>> our techy sound specialists to get hold of one of these
> >> and test.
> >>>>>> The weather in the UK at the moment is pretty
> horrendous, and it
> >>>>>> doesn't look like I'll be getting out to record
> wildfowl coming
> >>>>>> into roost within the next few days. I can't wait to try
> >> this out
> >>>>>> in 'the field'.
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
> >>>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi to Marco and all,
> >>>>>>> The lead arrived today, and I have just tested it and
> >> this is what
> >>>>>>> I've found. Plug into MIC; Turn LS-10 gain to 2 and
> reduce iRig
> >>>>>>> gain to minimum. Set sense to Low and turn on to
> Record Pause;
> >>>>>>> adjust gain on iRig. There will be no response if gain
> >> is set to
> >>>>>>> zero on LS-10.
> >>>>>>> I've done a very quick test with these settings, and
> at maximum
> >>>>>>> gain on the iRig, and I have to say that I'm extremely
> >> surprised
> >>>>>>> at the quality. All being well I'll do another test
> >> late at night
> >>>>>>> with no outdoor traffic, and with all nearby electrical
> >> components
> >>>>>>> turned off. I will then submit a short sample for one
> >> of our 'tech
> >>>>>>> boys' to examine, and give us a more critical
> opinion. I should
> >>>>>>> have said that the mic I used was an AT3032.
> >>>>>>> One thing already for the 'tech boys' is, that Audition
> >> showed two
> >>>>>>> identical waveforms; not one?
> >>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>> p.s. recording at 88.2 - 24bit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
> >>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Marco,
> >>>>>>>> You are of course perfectly correct in saying that
> >> headphones can
> >>>>>>>> be used via the recording unit! As I understand it, the eBay
> >>>>>>>> connector socket is designed to take a TRRS jack as
> >> the iPhone/
> >>>>>>>> iPod has. The advert has MAC in the title, and also
> >> says 'Convert
> >>>>>>>> your stereo headphones that also have an integrated
> >> microphone'.
> >>>>>>>> It will be interesting to find out; I too have
> ordered one, on
> >>>>>>>> the basis that I'm in no rush, and it's easier!
> >>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , m.pesente@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Max,
> >>>>>>>>> I know, it's a fancy way of what I have done to
> >> connect the iRig
> >>>>>>>>> Pre to an external recorder, but it's the only way I
> >> was able to
> >>>>>>>>> ensure that everything is working.
> >>>>>>>>> Listening is done by connecting the headphones to the
> >> recorder
> >>>>>>>>> (using FelMicamp cable for now!), while the
> headphone jack of
> >>>>>>>>> the IRig Pre must be plugged with a 4 pins Jack,
> >> preferably with
> >>>>>>>>> the headset for Iphone (do not ask me why, but in my
> >> case it is
> >>>>>>>>> so!), because there is no signal for headphones
> from Irig Pre!
> >>>>>>>>> I just bought on Ebay the cable you sent the link:
> I hope it
> >>>>>>>>> works, even if I have some doubts because the OUT
> on iRig Pre
> >>>>>>>>> (as previously said)seems to be plugged with a 4 pins jack
> >>>>>>>>> instead of 3 pins, but soon we'll know!
> >>>>>>>>> I hope I explained the best...
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the Ebay link!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Marco Pesente from Italy
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
> >>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Pesente,
> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for your input here. I have to confess that I
> >>>>>>>>>> didn't fully understand your explanation, probably
> >> because I'm
> >>>>>>>>>> not really awake yet! If I did understand that
> >> you're using the
> >>>>>>>>>> headphone OUT on the iRig, then I'm confused,
> >> because I thought
> >>>>>>>>>> I'd read somewhere that the headphone OUT was not passed
> >>>>>>>>>> through from the iRig, but was a return from the
> >> iPhone? BUT,
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not that well educated in this area, so I
> >> probably got it
> >>>>>>>>>> wrong.
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, one method I was going to try, being quite
> lazy, was
> >>>>>>>>>> this:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330820239423?
> >>>>>>>>>> ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=3Dp3984.m1423.l2649
> >>>>>>>>>> To make it neater you could cut off the headphone lead and
> >>>>>>>>>> insulate. The only problem with this is, if what I
> heard is
> >>>>>>>>>> correct, then there wouldn't be any signal from the iRig
> >>>>>>>>>> headphone output.
> >>>>>>>>>> Can you enlighten me on any of this please?
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , m.pesente@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Max,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I connected the iRig Pre to some of my small audio
> >> recorders
> >>>>>>>>>>> (M10, LS5, Roland R05, Zoom H1 etc) feeding a
> >> single AT 3032
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ph 48v with very good results. I am very pleased
> with this
> >>>>>>>>>>> small microphone preamplifier iRig Pre suggested me
> >> by Gianni
> >>>>>>>>>>> Pavan. In order to use the iRig Pre on a device
> >> other than a
> >>>>>>>>>>> IOs system (iPhone, etc.), for which it was
> designed, just
> >>>>>>>>>>> plug in a 3.5mm "four pins" jack (the same of an IPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>> headphones cable) to the IRig Pre headphones OUT
> >> and a pair of
> >>>>>>>>>>> headphones 3,5 Jack connected to a 10 cm cable
> "FEL Socket
> >>>>>>>>>>> Saver, stereo" sold by FelMicAmp. Only in this way
> >> I'm able to
> >>>>>>>>>>> obtain at the same time to record and monitor the
> recording
> >>>>>>>>>>> with a device different from IPhone system.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Max, once you have made or found a cable that enables to
> >>>>>>>>>>> connect the iRig Pre with an audio recorder in an
> >> easier way
> >>>>>>>>>>> than mine, I would be grateful if you would inform us.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Pesente Marco from Italy
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "I apologize for any mistakes due to typing by cell
> >> phone and
> >>>>>>>>>>> the help of the online translator!"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike and all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for not getting back earlier. I have
> to say that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm quite impressed with the iRig pre. I tried
> it using my
> >>>>>>>>>>>> only remaining AT3032 (really wish I hadn't sold my other
> >>>>>>>>>>>> two!) and the quality improvement over the
> >> internal mic of my
> >>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch was obvious. Most obvious was loss of low
> >>>>>>>>>>>> frequency random noise, in addition to the obvious
> >> benefit of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> gain. My simple tests were using my 66 year old
> >> ears, which
> >>>>>>>>>>>> aren't that good, so take this as you will; I'm
> sorry it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> not more scientific. What I intend to do next is
> >> to try the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> beast with my LS-10 after buying/making an adapter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside note, I re-tried the the Nakamichi
> CM-300 set
> >>>>>>>>>>>> again yesterday with my LS-10. This time, I used the low
> >>>>>>>>>>>> setting sense setting and then upped amplitude by 6db in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Audition. The results certainly confirmed what
> Umashankar
> >>>>>>>>>>>> said; this is a really good quality, quiet and
> >> useful set to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> carry (shotgun CP4 with very narrow super cardioid
> >> pattern;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> omni and cardioid shorts). Whether or not I'd be
> >> prepared to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pay the asking price I've seen on eBay USA
> >> sometimes, I'm not
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sure, but if any of you get the chance to pick one up
> >>>>>>>>>>>> cheaply, I'd say don't hesitate. The only
> downside is that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the batteries are not cheap, but according to
> >> Umashankar it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> posssible to convert to phantom power.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No problem Mike, glad to be of help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> >> Michael Dalton <mdaltonarielle@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy Max!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the lead. I have filed it as a
> >> suggestion for my
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder why a budget US based supplier such as Nady
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't offer something similar. Maybe they do;
> >> I haven't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The LS-10 owner hasn't said=EF=BF=BDwhether any of my
> >> suggestions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have helped.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ParrotSpeech.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: Noise in LS-10
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Max" oatcruncher
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgot the link:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/
> naturerecordists /
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message/ 49179
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, "Max"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@ ...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com,
> >> Michael Dalton
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mdaltonarielle@ > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other approach would be to use an
> external mike and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preamp. Is there a miniature system that is
> decent and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inexpensive for bypassing the internal mikes?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.parrotsp eech.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my iRig post here
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a sound is worth a
> >>>>> thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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