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Re: preamp quandry

Subject: Re: preamp quandry
From: "Max Catterwell" oatcruncher
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2012 9:55 am ((PST))
One of these sold on eBay the other night for =A3128; they would have got i=
t cheaper if I hadn't bid =A3126! I didn't need it so only bid low (they do=
n't work with 64bit operating systems).
Cheers
Max

Sent from my iPod

On 5 Dec 2012, at 16:34, "bleublancrouge24" <> wrote:

> john, someone is selling a ubs2 for $500 on jwsound
> here's the link
> http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/13661-fs-sound-devices-usb-pre2-=
500/
> hope you're not too late, good luck.
> P.
>
> --- In  John Crockett <> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> I've been saving my pennies for a Sound Devices USBPre2, the only SD =

>> device in financial reach for me, only to discover that the price has =

>> recently jumped a couple of hundred dollars. Yikes. It no longer
>> seems reasonable given that I am not a pro. I use my recordings in a =

>> professional capacity in a concert setting, but played over a concert =

>> PA system, recording noise levels are not really an issue once we're =

>> in the mid to upper echelon.
>>
>> I only need this for powering a pair of AT3032 mikes in a PBBA. All
>> my other mikes are PIP or self-powered and not so quiet (NT4, ME66,
>> EM172). I am currently using a ART USBDualPre preamp because it is
>> what I have on hand. It has an EIN of about -120dBu, and it is
>> clearly adding noise to the mikes, but 3032/dualpre combination is
>> still a couple of dB quieter than my Rode NT4, which is the mike I
>> use most often.
>>
>> For recorders, I have a LS-11 and a Sony MZRH1 Hi-MD. I sort of wish =

>> I had bought the LS-100 instead of the LS-11, but I was saving
>> pennies for the sound devices, so that is as it is. My thinking also =

>> was that recording technology, storage media, powering capacity, may =

>> all improve. For instance, SD cards are clearly replacing CF, and may =

>> themselves be replaced. But mike preamps  are pretty much at their
>> theoretical limit. They are not going to get much better. Spend the
>> money on a good external preamp that will work with any recorder with =

>> a line input, for a long time to come. That was my thinking until
>> this price jump.
>>
>> So, what would you do in this case?
>>
>> Stick with the ART USBDualPre and accept the 1 - 2 dB of extra noise =

>> compared to the best?
>> Buy a portable Phantom unit (ART or Rolls) and use it with the LS-11 =

>> or Hi-MD?
>> Look for a used SD MixPre on eBay for <$600?
>> Buy a mid-cost recorder with decent preamps (LS-100)?
>> Continue saving even more pennies for a Sound Devices unit and hope
>> the price doesn't become an ever-receding horizon?
>>
>> If you have experience with any of these, which do you think would
>> yield the best results for the price? My recordings run the gamut
>> from individual species close and at a great distance, to both noisy =

>> and very quiet soundscapes.
>>
>> I am somewhat inclined toward getting a Phantom supply and seeing how =

>> much benefit that brings. I've also been happier with the EM172 array =

>> than I expected to be and perhaps should stop questing after the holy =

>> grail!
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> John
>>
>> John Crockett
>> Westminster, Vermont
>>
>> Let us live in harmony with Earth
>> And all creatures
>> That our lives may be a blessing
>>
>>
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