Hi Keith!
I just had a look at Colney on the satellite map, and it looks like a nice =
quiet place. The Rushcutters at Thorpe is still there, and has a very good =
reputation for food, but I'm not sure about the ghosts! It's a shame your d=
ad didn't get back to the mountains; is that where you're at now, or still =
Toronto way? I found via the bad link a piccie of jazz musicians, and I'm g=
uessing from what you said earlier about guitars, that you're the guitarist=
on the left? I'm a mess around woodwind man myself, mainly flutes, fifes a=
nd whistles. This comes from my biggest music interest, folk. Keep it cool!
Max
--- In Keith Smith <> wrote:
>
> Yes. Uncle Ken Williams in Colney. Was with Norwich Union for many years.
> My Dad, also from Norwich, was sent to Alberta for flight training in WWI=
I.
> He was Capt. RA and Fl. Lt. RAF at the same time. The story is that the R=
A
> wanted their own people to fly recon missions and chose 50 men for the jo=
b.
> Dad fell in love with the mountains here and when the war was over
> emigrated to Canada with my mother and older sister in '47. I came along
> after that. Funny thing was that he soon got transferred to Toronto and I
> grew up near there. He never got out here again.
>
> Are the ghosts at Thorpe Gardens still upset? It was called the Rushcutte=
rs
> when I was there in '86. Word was, they were throwing cutlery around. My
> grandmother managed it during the war.
>
> Cheers to you, Max!
> k
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Keith Smith <> wrote:
>
> > I see. Yahoo breaks the link.
> > try this<http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/121114-GriffithWoods_Sony%20=
ECM-MS907_661_InGain8.wav>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Max <> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> I can't get to work either, and I've tried it two browsers; Firefox an=
d
> >> Chrome?
> >>
> >> Max
> >>
> >> --- In Keith Smith <kahsmith@>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Sorry 'bout that! This tests OK -darned if I can see the difference =
;)
> >> > http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/121114-GriffithWoods_Sony
> >> > ECM-MS907_661_InGain8.wav
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Max <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > **
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Keith!
> >> > > OK, the good news; I just love your brilliant piccie - devastating=
ly
> >> good!
> >> > > The bad news; the sound link doesn't work. I was so looking forwar=
d to
> >> > > listening to that, particularly as you went to all that trouble.
> >> > > So, you've got an uncle in Norwich? I live about 70 miles from the=
re;
> >> it's
> >> > > a beautiful city. Are you an ex pat, or is it one of those complic=
ated
> >> > > stories? If so, you don't have to tell it!
> >> > > Hope you can sort the link
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Max
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In Keith Smith <kahsmith@>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > HI Max,
> >> > > > I've never sold anything good without regretting it later (usual=
ly
> >> > > within a
> >> > > > week!). A couple of those guitars would buy me a lovely mic clos=
et
> >> today.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I took the Sony ECM MS907 out this morning. Terrible day for air
> >> > > traffic. I
> >> > > > was on the edge of the city. Things are pretty slow for wildlife
> >> sounds
> >> > > > around here at this time of year (and at my skill level), so it
> >> won't
> >> > > sound
> >> > > > like my uncle's English country garden in Norwich!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's pretty hissy, but not the most objectionable hiss I've ever
> >> heard.
> >> > > The
> >> > > > MS907 is plugged into a Marantz PMD 661 with the gain set to 8. =
I
> >> haven't
> >> > > > applied any EQ, or postGain; just chopped and x-faded. At 2:12 I
> >> replay
> >> > > the
> >> > > > last few seconds with some gentle denoising (Voxengo Redunoise
> >> > > --signature
> >> > > > acquired from the under-the-bedclothes test) with 2db of makeup
> >> gain.
> >> > > > Temperature is about 4=B0C, gently breezy and you'll hear some s=
now
> >> falling
> >> > > > off trees in the sun. The creek will perhaps give a better idea =
of
> >> the
> >> > > > imaging at 120=B0, which hasn't been altered. I'm guessing this =
would
> >> be
> >> > > > similar to the HD-P2 at about 7-7.5, as the Marantz pre's seem t=
o
> >> offer a
> >> > > > little more, and quieter gain.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/121114-GriffithWoods_SonyECM-MS907_6=
Message: 61_InGain8.
Subject: wav
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I also met a new
> >> > > > friend<
> >> http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/2012_11_14_IMG_0066-1-1.JPG>who
> >> > >
> >> > > > made my day -love these image-stabilizing tele's!
> >> > > > k
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Max <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > **
> >> > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Hi Keith!
> >> > > > > Let's hope I have better luck with THIS reply!
> >> > > > > Firstly, in reference to the CAD 179, I do have one of those, =
and
> >> > > bought
> >> > > > > it with the intention of making up an M/S rig, but never did g=
et
> >> > > around to
> >> > > > > it. The original idea was to use it with my MKH60 which I sold
> >> complete
> >> > > > > with Rycote basket and fluffy for a silly price brrr! Secondly=
, I
> >> also
> >> > > > > still have my HD-P2. This is pure luck, because I bought it in=
a
> >> bit
> >> > > of a
> >> > > > > state, with repair work needing doing, and because it looks a =
bit
> >> > > rough I
> >> > > > > didn't bother to sell it, even though it now works perfectly. =
A
> >> month
> >> > > or
> >> > > > > two back a brand new sealed case for it came up on eBay at a s=
illy
> >> > > price,
> >> > > > > so I bought it, and at least it looks better now! The only oth=
er
> >> mic
> >> > > I'm
> >> > > > > likely to buy sometime is the AT BP 4025, which Jan brought to=
my
> >> > > attention
> >> > > > > with one of his marvelous recordings. I still have a couple of
> >> ME66's
> >> > > with
> >> > > > > K6's, but one of them is faulty; must sort that out! Lots of
> >> things to
> >> > > keep
> >> > > > > me happy for a while anyway.
> >> > > > > I went out yesterday to see if I could find some Crossbills to
> >> record;
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > found them, but had equipment problems. I'd taken the Nakamich=
i
> >> > > collection
> >> > > > > with me and had the long shotgun on it. It soon became clear I
> >> there
> >> > > was a
> >> > > > > problem which made all three mics useless! The birds were ther=
e
> >> with a
> >> > > nice
> >> > > > > flock of Siskins, but the means to record them wasn't!! On
> >> inspection
> >> > > this
> >> > > > > morning, it turns out that the problem was with the lead which
> >> came
> >> > > with
> >> > > > > the mics. Clearly at some time the previous owner had replaced=
the
> >> > > lead and
> >> > > > > for some reason hadn't connected the ground in the XLR! When I=
'd
> >> > > previously
> >> > > > > tested it, it must by chance have been just touching?! For som=
e
> >> stupid
> >> > > > > reason; I'm guessing old age, it didn't occur to me to use the
> >> internal
> >> > > > > mics! Such is life
> >> > > > > Cheers
> >> > > > > Max
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In Keith Smith <kahsmith=
@>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Heh, It's probably my bad Karma, Max.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I did notice the 25 DB?, so I haven't been in a hurry ;)
> >> > > > > > When I bought the Sony mic it was a few years before I becam=
e
> >> at all
> >> > > > > > serious about recording. It was an improvement over somethin=
g
> >> even
> >> > > > > cheaper.
> >> > > > > > I was making casual recordings of gigs I played, so much of =
the
> >> > > > > self-noise
> >> > > > > > would have been masked by cymbals and the background noise o=
f
> >> the
> >> > > crowd.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > As I think back, I have to admit I'm a wimp. Although my fir=
st
> >> > > recordings
> >> > > > > > go back to a Webcor wire recorder, it wasn't until half dece=
nt
> >> audio
> >> > > > > > interfaces for computers became affordable that I could get
> >> results
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > I
> >> > > > > > could stand, and thereafter develop more than a cursory
> >> interest in
> >> > > > > > recording.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Some of the most useful material I've seen on comparing mic
> >> specs
> >> > > came on
> >> > > > > > links I found in this group. It was a great help to get a fe=
el
> >> for
> >> > > how
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > relationship between sensitivity and self-noise affect noise
> >> > > performance
> >> > > > > of
> >> > > > > > a mic/pre combination.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_mic_recorder.htm (Raimund is=
a
> >> major
> >> > > > > > contributor here.)
> >> > > > > > http://www.rane.com/note148.html
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I also find this site very useful:
> >> > > > > > http://www.microphone-data.com/
> >> > > > > > You need to set up an account (free), but I haven't received=
any
> >> > > new, or
> >> > > > > > more spam than usual after signing up.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Take a look at the sensitivity vs self-noise of some of the =
>$2K
> >> > > > > > Sennheiser's that get mentioned on this list. Then take a
> >> Valium &
> >> > > lay
> >> > > > > down
> >> > > > > > for a while.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > A little OT:
> >> > > > > > One source of inexpensive and quiet mics that seldom gets
> >> mentioned
> >> > > here
> >> > > > > is
> >> > > > > > CAD. I have 3 M-179's and a Pair of e300=B2's. One caveat wi=
th
> >> these is
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > they're pretty greedy on phantom power, drawing around 8ma/e=
a,
> >> which
> >> > > will
> >> > > > > > probably exceed what your portable recorder will supply. The=
y
> >> are
> >> > > > > > multi-pattern though (179's are inf variable), and great for=
MS
> >> > > > > recording.
> >> > > > > > I got some decent MS stuff with a pair of 179's on my Tascam
> >> HDP2,
> >> > > > > before I
> >> > > > > > realized I might be toasting the phantom supply. Now I'm a b=
it
> >> timid
> >> > > > > about
> >> > > > > > trying it again.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Rode is in the same league for noise, and probably less gree=
dy
> >> but on
> >> > > > > some
> >> > > > > > models they seem a little queasy about actually stating curr=
ent
> >> draw
> >> > > > > (just
> >> > > > > > listing as P48).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I think my next move is to get some Primo EM172's (lots of s=
tuff
> >> > > here on
> >> > > > > > these) and warm up the soldering iron.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > > > Keith
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Max <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > **
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > I've emailed you privately Keith
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > --- In "Max"
> >> <maxcatterwell@>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Very strange!!! I added my reply to Keith on the end of =
my
> >> > > previous
> >> > > > > > > post, but once again it wouldn't send. So I deleted it, an=
d
> >> off it
> >> > > > > went????
> >> > > > > > > I'll try adding it here, but I'm not hopeful.
> >> > > > > > > > No, it won't go!?
> >> > > > > > > > I'll try posting under a new title
> >> > > > > > > > Max
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > --- In "Max"
> >> <maxcatterwell@>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Hi David,
> >> > > > > > > > > I'm having great difficulty posting this evening; I've
> >> been
> >> > > trying
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > reply to Keith for hours without success. I'll post my rep=
ly
> >> to
> >> > > him on
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > end of this, just in case.
> >> > > > > > > > > OK, I appreciate your reply and the extra input you've
> >> given.
> >> > > One
> >> > > > > > > thing I'm assuming about this mic, is that the decoding is
> >> done
> >> > > > > internally.
> >> > > > > > > At this point in time my technical knowledge is limited, b=
ut
> >> as
> >> > > > > there's no
> >> > > > > > > mention of having to decode, I'm guessing it won't need to=
be
> >> > > done. In
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > way I hope it DOES have to be done, because it would be
> >> something
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > learn
> >> > > > > > > and play with in Audition! But as I've said already, I'm n=
ot
> >> really
> >> > > > > > > expecting much for such a dirt cheap mic, but it was the m=
/s
> >> spec
> >> > > that
> >> > > > > > > rather intrigued me. Time will tell.
> >> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> >> > > > > > > > > Max
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > --- In "Avocet" <bri=
ni@
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > What do YOU make of the specs? It's so cheap that =
I'm
> >> > > tempted
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > buy
> >> > > > > > > > > > > one whatever, to try with my LS-10.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > Max,
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > It is likely to be value for money, take that as you
> >> will.
> >> > > :-)
> >> > > > > As a
> >> > > > > > > > > > kickabout mic or for putting on idents, fine, but do=
n't
> >> > > expect
> >> > > > > much
> >> > > > > > > > > > with those specs.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > The stated noise level is high, whatever weighting i=
s
> >> used
> >> > > but I
> >> > > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > > > > have thought that they would have stated A-weighting=
if
> >> that
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > what
> >> > > > > > > > > > they mean. Witn no info, I'd expect a "best case" te=
st.
> >> They
> >> > > are
> >> > > > > > > > > > unlikely to publish a "worst case" test.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > The output worries me at 5.6mV/Pa which is low for a=
ny
> >> mic.
> >> > > With
> >> > > > > > > quiet
> >> > > > > > > > > > sounds like nature recording, the input noise of any
> >> > > affordable
> >> > > > > > > > > > recorder will probably be audible, even over the 25d=
B
> >> mic
> >> > > spec.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > As a music mic, the max SPL of 110 dB rules it out f=
or
> >> close
> >> > > > > miking
> >> > > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > > > > > instruments or even voices. It may be bad for handli=
ng
> >> noise
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > > prone
> >> > > > > > > > > > to wind as well due to the fig-8 reponse.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > You can't easily separate out the M cardioid capsule=
so
> >> you
> >> > > will
> >> > > > > > > > > > always have an all-round pickup from the fig-8.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > David
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > David Brinicombe
> >> > > > > > > > > > North Devon, UK
> >> > > > > > > > > > Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > Keith Smith
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai -
> >> > > www.keithsmith.ca
> >> > > > > > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Keith Smith
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai -
> >> www.keithsmith.ca
> >> > > > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Keith Smith
> >> >
> >> > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai - www.keithsmith=
.ca
> >> > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Keith Smith
> >
> > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai - www.keithsmith.ca
> > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Keith Smith
>
> Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai - www.keithsmith.ca
> Photography - www.mymountains.ca
>
>
>
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