Your good humor is duly noted, Klas!
But if I may put a slightly finer point on it, I would say that oddball wor=
ds like these *ARE* the descriptions. They are offered up as the best we ca=
n do in our awkward attempts to describe -- through language -- observation=
s of subtle and often abstract audio phenomena we think we're hearing or th=
at we aim to hear. The music and audio worlds are well known for this, prov=
iding us all with some good chuckles along the way.
Back to the the "wavy" thing, though... I surely can't be the only one out =
there who has noticed this phenomenon I'm straining to describe with words =
like "wavy interactions," "jitter" and "inter-channel instability." I'd wel=
come a better way to put it.
Curt Olson
Klas wrote:
> I like this!
>
> Now we have David's "splashing" and Curt's "wavy", two words that cannot =
be described.
>
> I think we are getting somewhere!
>
> Klas
>
>
>> Excellent questions Scott. Thank you!
>>
>> "Wavy" is the best word I've found so far to describe a phenomenon I've =
noticed consistently for many years on recordings captured with ORTF, M-S a=
nd spaced-omni arrays. Not a partial blending toward mono, but rather a ver=
y subtle but audible "jitter" or "inter-channel instability" in these non-b=
affled arrays. Sorry, that's the best I can do at describing it. The common=
thread would seem to be non-baffled. Introduce baffles/barriers, especiall=
y adjacent to the mics (either perp. or flush), and it seems to almost alwa=
ys disappear.
>>
>> I've been able to greatly reduce the effect in ORTF-type pairs by moving=
the two mics closer and closer to each other until, at some point, dependi=
ng on the mics, the "wavy" effect seems to become unnoticeable. Of course, =
the desired stereo width gets reduced too.
>>
>> Why this would occur in M-S recordings is absolutely beyond me, but it's=
almost always there.
>>
>> Curt Olson
>>
>>> Scott Fraser wrote:
>>>
>>>> The SASS-type rigs deliver a super clean image without any of the "wav=
y" microphone interactions that are common to ORTF, M-S and Spaced-Omni arr=
ays.
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you describe what you mean by "wavy"? Given how vastly different =
ORTF, MS & Spaced Omni are from each I can't imagine what characteristic th=
ey would all have in common. Are you referring to the partial blending towa=
rd mono of any non-baffled array?
>>>
>>> Scott Fraser
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