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Re: Sony M10, D50, Olympus LS7, Roland R05 Zoom H1: internal mics c

Subject: Re: Sony M10, D50, Olympus LS7, Roland R05 Zoom H1: internal mics c
From: "Paul Willison" wolfen49508
Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:38 pm ((PDT))
I wanted to chime in here also. =A0I own both the LS-7 and LS-10 and what i=
s interesting is that while I feel in "real world" use the external mic-in =
functions are similar but with a slight advantage to the 10, when I used th=
e built in mic's there is a definite improvement=A0across=A0the board with =
the LS-7. =A0 =A0 I think the LS-7 benefits from lessons learned with the 1=
Message: 0. 
Subject: =A0 Above all, I =A0hear a LOT less self noise with the 7.
is is with the internal mics...with the external, it's an entirely differen=
t story, with them again being in a near dead heat, the 10 winning by a nos=
e at most.

From: Jez <>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Sony M10, D50, Olympus LS7, Roland R05 Zoo=
m H1:  internal mics comparison.

yes, Marco - thanks for this. It's also posted on the 'a quiet position' fa=
cebook group & has a few comments there.

one thing that's been mentioned quite a lot & that I myself feel is that wh=
ilst there are lots of good sites that list specs for various bits of kit t=
here are still few side by side tests with audio of a few units at a time. =
There's a need for more of this as the specs only tell one (imo, small) par=
t of the story.

--- In  vickipowys <> wrote:
> Marco,
> That was a very interesting test, but with little or no response from
> this group, what a shame.
> It is one thing to read the noise figures for recorders and mics, but
> to have a hands-on demo is very worthwhile.  I also downloaded the
> sound clip and had a good look in the spectrogram feature of Izotope RX.
> Your demo only compares the built-in microphones, but if anyone is
> wanting to use only this feature then my order of preference is:
> 1. Sony M10
> 2. Sony D50
> 3. Olympus LS7 (the LS10 may be better than the LS7?)
> 4. Zoom H1
> 5. Roland R05
> I would be very interested to hear a comparison of the same recorders
> when using external electret mics and plug-in-power (PIP).
> Vicki Powys
> Australia
> On 14/06/2012, at 7:02 AM,  wrote:
> > I performed a test of some of my recorders (Sony M10, D50, Olympus
> > LS7, Roland R05 Zoom H1) to compare their internal mics on a
> > passerine bird singer, the Blackcap, very widespread here in Europe.
> > A simultaneous recording was obtained with all five recorders; the
> > levels were set to have almost the same level on all recorders;
> > fine tuning of levels in post production was required only for the
> > Roland R05 (+3db) and the Zoom H1 (+6db).
> > The Olympus Ls 7 was enabled for all its three microphones (the two
> > side cardioids and the central one omnidirectional).
> > Here the youtube link to the Movie file
> >
> > and here the Soundcloud link to the WAV file
> > marco-pesente/blackcap-m10-d50-ls7-r05-h1
> >
> > Marco Pesente
> >

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