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10. Re: Mixing using Headphones

Subject: 10. Re: Mixing using Headphones
From: "Jez" tempjez
Date: Wed May 30, 2012 9:25 am ((PDT))
hmmm:

there was no bait - i'm not trying to argue one point over another - i'm sa=
ying there are more points, more approaches & no one is more valid than the=
 other.

1) I don't have any problems with 'studios' or 'tuned spaces' but I took is=
sue
with them being seen as the 'ideal'

2) lots of people mix on headphones, in their own homes in rooms that aren'=
t
'tuned' or haven't been turned into studios or 'release' their recordings t=
o others without any processing or editing & achieve powerful & communicati=
ve
results.

3) no studio is built to some 'ideal' design that is a result of all the
acoustic research - they are all built to individual ideas of that ideal & =
every
bit of kit in them adds some colour to the process

4) the view that only sound edited / mixed in studios can work or has, in s=
ome
way, more to offer is simply wrong - thats not my opinion, its a fact born =
out
by the vast, vast majority of music & creative sound history.

5) in 35 years of all kinds of involvement in various aspects of sound & mu=
sic
i've yet to visit a single 'tuned' studio (in a home or a specific building=
)
that isn't cluttered up in various areas by boxes of gear, chairs, peoples =
cd
collections etc etc - all of which interfere with any 'tuning' that was don=
e in
the first place.

6) weighing up all the music & sound that comes out of pro-studios i'd plac=
e my
bet on that more than 50% of it has very little creative or artistic value =
& a
large amount of it could be seen as damaging the way we listen or our ears =
are
trained to not listen (via the use of compression for example).

7) comments have been put forward about the science of sound when it comes =
to neutral spaces / paths for mixing & my point is that there are other asp=
ects of the science which were being ignored - such as the evidence that we=
 naturally 'tune' ourselves to the rooms in which we live & therefore stepp=
ing into a specific space designed for sound affects the emotive aspects of=
 the listening process.

with this updated version of my reply I think, with respect, i'll bow out o=
f this conversation now. It's in danger of drifting into areas of elitism o=
r misunderstanding that I don't think are going to be helpful.

each to their own.



I hope that clarifies a bit.

--- In  Mark <> wrote:
>
> Hi Jez,
>
> I am gonna take your bait, but ask you to succinctly lay out your argumen=
t. Since you have called out the Jedi masters on this list to qualify their=
 short Zen like koans compared to your essays which I have yet to understan=
d. Your point as I have understood it so far, is that you don't wish for a =
studio to be thought of as neutral, but you really haven't given many other=
 alternatives except to mention that their are an undefinable number of the=
m. Please excuse my ignorance of what you might be trying to say in all tha=
t, and you may have given alternatives, but have I missed them?
>
> Peace Out,
>
> Mark
>








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