You may be right, Jez. I just don't know of any, and neither did the
late Ken Norris (the head of environmental studies at UC Santa Cruz,
and the man who discovered the mechanisms through which dolphins do
echolocation, and one of the fellows who worked with the US Navy
developing submarine hydrophone technologies during WWII). Norris sent
me, as part of his research team, on that first mission in 1984 to
Mono Lake to record w/ the hydrophone we had made. Likewise, he also
sent me to Africa to check out whether or not hippos vocalize
underwater in the late 80s. They do. And I think a colleague from
Harvard and I were the first on record to record those, too. (The
claims are only based on a quick, cursory search of the available
literature at the time and are not meant to be expressed w/ certitude.)
Bernie
On May 3, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Jez wrote:
> indeed - one of the things I like most about exploring with
> hydrophones
> is that no matter how much of it you do, you really do never know what
> sounds you'll find in waters. I'm sure even Bernie will confirm this.
> You can look at a pond, see the same types of insects or fish are
> there
> & yet the sound world within will be so different, even on different
> days & at different times. The effect of temperature on sounds such as
> those from aquatic plants is dramatic also.
> there are some hydrophone based tracks on the free to download
> editions
> of 'a quiet position':
> http://www.jezrileyfrench.co.uk/a-quiet-position.php
> <http://www.jezrileyfrench.co.uk/a-quiet-position.php>
> & volume one of 'the bright work' is hydrophone based:
> http://engravedglass.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/as-urfaces-residency-exhibit=
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> ion-release.html
> <http://engravedglass.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/as-urfaces-residency-exhibi=
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> tion-release.html> Bernie, its interesting (& perhaps a bit
> frustrating
> from an archive point of view) that there will have been lots of sound
> exploration using hydrophones prior to that 1984 recording but most of
> it will have not been gathered for the purposes of listening per say.
> There are some earlier recordings of pond life but not a lot in the
> public realm & lots more of sea-based sounds of course. Talking of
> which, it'd be good to see Prof. Marie Fish (I kid you not ! that was
> her last name) book 'Sounds of Western North Atlantic fish' re-
> published
> & available with a cd of the sounds she & her research partner
> collected.
> --- In "soundings23"
> <> wrote:
>>
>> Fascinating stuff, thanks Bernie. There's something I like about this
> whole sound world going on completely below our awareness - even in a
> boating lake in a Devon seaside town which some might say is a little
> mundane. I'm wondering now whether there's a difference between day
> and
> night in terms of activity? I recall being told that rock pools are
> more
> active at night - which will be my next hydrophone adventure.
>>
>> --- In Bernie Krause chirp@ wrote:
>>>
>>> To my knowledge, this is the first such recording made in 1984,
> Greg.
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> http://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/tadpoles_insect_larvae
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bernie
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Gregory O'Drobinak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Bernie!
>>>>
>>>> Can you share some recordings of vernal ponds (or other small
> aquatic
>>>> environments) with us?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure we'd all like to hear some of the rich aquatic sounds
> that
>>>> you've
>>>> recorded.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>
>>>> - Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Bernie Krause chirp@
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Thu, May 3, 2012 3:13:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Hydrophone ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many tiny marine organisms make noise, Tony. Waterboatmen, insect
>>>> larvae, tadpoles (spadefoot toads, for instance), all vocal with
>>>> certain species. Keep in mind, though, that there's still lots of
> work
>>>> to do identifying all those that do (or don't) vocalize. One of my
>>>> biggest surprises was when I first dropped a hydrophone into a
> vernal
>>>> pool at Mono Lake and heard those critters for the first time in
> 1984.
>>>>
>>>> Bernie Krause
>>>>
>>>> On May 3, 2012, at 12:49 PM, soundings23 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bought a hydrophone from Jez riley French this week (many thank's
>>>>> Jez, very prompt and all works fine - though I soldered on a
> stereo
>>>>> mini jack so I could output to both channels). First try is here
>>>>> http://soundcloud.com/tonywhitehead/goodrington-hydrophone
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm now left wondering about the sounds! I'm guessing water
> boatmen
>>>>> of which there were quite a few small Corixidae. There were also
> a
>>>>> number of tadpoles. Any suggestions for a hydrophone newbie!
>>>>>
>>>>> I also like the way, despite it being a few feet down, it picks
> up a
>>>>> herring gull call distantly about a third of the way in.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
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