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Re: The barbaric treatment of Fur Seals in Namibia

Subject: Re: The barbaric treatment of Fur Seals in Namibia
From: "Martyn Stewart" mijdog2000
Date: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:15 am ((PDT))
By-the-way, where are you? Land mines? Mozambique?




Martyn
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Martyn Stewart
www.naturesound.org
www.soundofcritters.com


425-898-0462
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Make every garden a wildlife habitat

On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Martyn Stewart wrote:

> It is a fact of life i'm afraid, Greg. Even when people respect each othe=
r they are still disconnected. It is the way we are genetically built. Comp=
assion amongst men is rare, money greed and power will always supersede. Ma=
n looks at animals as a food source, they disconnect from the very basics o=
f life and devalue everything on the planet.
> Take the USA for instance, Americans occupy 7% of the planet and use 75% =
of its recourses. why would man give a dam about anything else but himself!
> There are pockets of people that do however and its up to those to educat=
e the masses. It is pissing against the wind however but it does slow the p=
rocess down.
> Noise in our environment has become a huge problem, 25 years ago it took =
me 4-5 hours to record 1 pristine hour, today it takes around 2000 hours to=
 get the equivalent..
> You will never change people, this is my experience but i would never giv=
e up. I will always fight for what i believe, I have gone from vegetarian t=
o vegan now because of the milk trade and how bloody cruel it is. If we all=
 became vegetarian the soundscape would truly benefit....
> You do what you do.
>
> Martyn
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> Martyn Stewart
> www.naturesound.org
> www.soundofcritters.com
>
> 425-898-0462
> -------------------------------------------------
> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
>
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Gregory O'Drobinak wrote:
>
> > Martyn:
> >
> > Your work with these seals is commendable, and your energy is being app=
lied with
> > vigor. I agree with your message and I hope that the outcome will be go=
od.
> >
> > As for myself, I am not in that same stream. I have just begun a new jo=
b after
> > being laid off for over 2 months and it has taken me to a new place out=
 int the
> > country, a place I had never known of before, a place where there is an=

> > abundance of wonderful nature all around, yet is has it hitches: all of=
 the
> > signs from the DNR in that area tell one that it is "supported by the h=
unters
> > and trappers and fishermen".
> >
> > Indeed, there are huge fields of corn planted everywhere by the DNR fol=
ks to
> > fatten up the dear & the game in order to optimize the quality of the k=
ill for
> > the hunter. There is also some industry around there that, fortunately,=
 does not
> > project much anthrophony for more than one square miles out of perhaps =
hundreds
> > of square miles. But the State has gotten funding to develop this area =
more for
> > industry which will surely advance the onslaught of anthrophony to cove=
r more of
> > the area with obnoxious noise. There are also areas in the nature prese=
rve that
> > are not accessible due to that fact that there are still land mines pla=
nted in
> > the fields.
> >
> > So where am I going with this? It's simple: the crux of the matter is t=
hat in
> > many respects most people don't give a damn about nature, much less the=
mselves.
> > And that's really my point.
> >
> > How do you expect people to care about the killing of nature when they =
don't
> > care about the killing effects that they have on themselves. That, in m=
y
> > opinion, is what is what the real problem is here, people have lost res=
pect for
> > one another and the quality of life that so many need desperately every=
 day. But
> > the human killing continues, in often more ghastly ways than what is be=
ing
> > bestowed on these poor seals. So I wonder, how do you expect the exploi=
tation of
> > of nature to stop when the exploitation of humans continues?
> >
> > What is really needed here is a way to change the mindset of how humans=
 value
> > one another, then the rest of nature will become valued as well. You ca=
n't do
> > one without the other.
> >
> > I wish you well, but I wish for more than that. It is a *very* difficul=
t problem
> > to tackle. I try every day. I could tell you some stories, but I need t=
o sleep
> > right now. :>}
> >
> > Peace!
> >
> > -Greg
> >
>
>
>










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