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Re: Sennheiser 80x0 series. was Infrasound microphone

Subject: Re: Sennheiser 80x0 series. was Infrasound microphone
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_audio
Date: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:18 pm ((PDT))
At 10:48 AM -0500 7/30/10, Rob Danielson wrote:
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>
>At 7:51 AM -0700 7/30/10, Scott Fraser wrote:
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>><<Most of what I've heard, is that if it wasn't for the extended low
>>end of the 80x0 series, that they would RATHER use some OTHER rather
>>specific mic(s). Not to say that they aren't amazing mics and a value
>>at their price points. Hence why I want some. But I've seen many
>>comments that favor the older MKH20 / MKH40 over their modern MKH8020
>>and MKH8040 counterparts. And other mics that are on par with the new
>>kids on the block.>>
>>
>>That is what you get with the Internet; opinions that cover the entire
>>spectrum of thought & experience, and like movie or book reviews you
>>really need to know something of the background of the opinion giver
>>to know if your response might be similar or opposite. I frequently
>>read online reviews of mics, the conclusions of which I can dismiss,
>>knowing that the reviewer works exclusively with rock bands & has
>>little involvement with traditional acoustic instruments. My personal
>>experience, & that of several classical music engineer colleagues who
>>I work with closely, is that the 8040 has a degree of naturalness,
>>realism, resolution & presence at distance which is unmatched by
>>others, including DPA 400x's & Schoeps CMC5/MK2's at a lesser
>>distance, in the context of chamber music, orchestral music & soprano
>>(Dawn Upshaw) with piano accompaniment. I have yet to hear a negative
>>response from anybody who has used these mics, but I also haven't
>>sought opinions through the usual Internet sources, having had the
>>opportunity for personal hands-on use of the 8040's. I have not used
>>the 80x0 for nature recording, so that's untried, but generally I find
>>the requirements for accurate, realistic portrayal of musical
>>instruments in acoustic spaces exceeds the demands for a similar sense
>>of emplacement within a nature setting.
>>
>>Scott Fraser
>
>Hi James--
>
>What field applications and array (omnis cardiod, figure 8)? Studio
>uses/users can come to very different conclusions. Hopefully someone
>has used both mkh20's, mkh8020's and mkh 80/800's in the field with
>high gain and very distant subjects that will chime in.
>
>I've used mkh20, 30 & 40 and MKH80 in the field for 6 years. I
>believe Greg Weddig tested a mkh8020 and compared it to Schoeps MK2-
>a link to that might be in the archive. I can try to discuss some
>differences with the older mkh's and the 80 if you can give me some
>examples of how you plan to use the mics and which array. Rob D.
>
>

Greg's comparison is with ORTF using mkh-8040 and MK-21 cardioids:
http://gregweddig.net/?p=3D11
Rob D.


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