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Re: Sennheiser 80x0 series. was Infrasound microphone

Subject: Re: Sennheiser 80x0 series. was Infrasound microphone
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_audio
Date: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:49 am ((PDT))
At 7:51 AM -0700 7/30/10, Scott Fraser wrote:
>
>
><<Most of what I've heard, is that if it wasn't for the extended low
>end of the 80x0 series, that they would RATHER use some OTHER rather
>specific mic(s). Not to say that they aren't amazing mics and a value
>at their price points. Hence why I want some. But I've seen many
>comments that favor the older MKH20 / MKH40 over their modern MKH8020
>and MKH8040 counterparts. And other mics that are on par with the new
>kids on the block.>>
>
>That is what you get with the Internet; opinions that cover the entire
>spectrum of thought & experience, and like movie or book reviews you
>really need to know something of the background of the opinion giver
>to know if your response might be similar or opposite. I frequently
>read online reviews of mics, the conclusions of which I can dismiss,
>knowing that the reviewer works exclusively with rock bands & has
>little involvement with traditional acoustic instruments. My personal
>experience, & that of several classical music engineer colleagues who
>I work with closely, is that the 8040 has a degree of naturalness,
>realism, resolution & presence at distance which is unmatched by
>others, including DPA 400x's & Schoeps CMC5/MK2's at a lesser
>distance, in the context of chamber music, orchestral music & soprano
>(Dawn Upshaw) with piano accompaniment. I have yet to hear a negative
>response from anybody who has used these mics, but I also haven't
>sought opinions through the usual Internet sources, having had the
>opportunity for personal hands-on use of the 8040's. I have not used
>the 80x0 for nature recording, so that's untried, but generally I find
>the requirements for accurate, realistic portrayal of musical
>instruments in acoustic spaces exceeds the demands for a similar sense
>of emplacement within a nature setting.
>
>Scott Fraser

Hi James--

What field applications and array (omnis cardiod, figure 8)?  Studio
uses/users can come to very different conclusions.  Hopefully someone
has used both mkh20's, mkh8020's and mkh 80/800's in the field with
high gain and very distant subjects that will chime in.

I've used mkh20, 30 & 40 and MKH80 in the field for 6 years. I
believe Greg Weddig tested a  mkh8020 and compared it to Schoeps MK2-
a link to that might be in the archive. I can try to discuss some
differences with the older mkh's and the 80 if you can give me some
examples of how you plan to use the mics and which array. Rob D.






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