Ive used three <part number that shall not be named by me in order to respe=
ct Telinga's wish many moons ago that we don't discuss part numbers> dangli=
ng off the PIP supply from a Sony D50, by "reliable" do you mean giving the=
same sensitivity as a single capsule or something else?
-The capsules will operate at greatly reduced sensitivity at 1V, its -32.58=
dB re 1V/PA (23.5mV/PA)
Or at 15V (5V over spec) a "greatly enhanced" sensitivity of -24.42dB re 1V=
/PA / 60.10mV/PA
Above RL=3D2.2K.
Sensitivity of the capsule I tested at 9V via 2.2K was -25.81 dV re 1V/PA (=
Message: 51.
Subject: 20 mV/PA).
Sony D50 (directly soldered) for a single capsule was -29.07dB re 1V/PA or =
Message: 35.
Subject: 20 mV/PA.
You can also hand pick the most sensitive capsules providing you have a tes=
t jig and means to measure each one.
Personally I dont see much point running them in parallel unless an outboar=
d battery box is provided if thats the case theres around 8 dB of sensitivi=
ty range to be used depending on the supply voltage & source resistor if pr=
esent at all.
Measurement conditions: Calibrator: SC1 09.06.2010 referenced to Quest QC22=
/ Temp 24C / Baro 1013.1 hPa
BR
Mike.
--- In "Raimund" <> wrot=
e:
>
> Hi Jeremiah,
>
> The Telinga Clip-Ons employ two EM172 capsules in parallel on each channe=
l (which is the reason for their very low noise floor). Unfortunately, the =
PIP circuit of the SONY PCM-M10 cannot provide enough current for properly =
operating two capsules on each channel. I recently measured the PIP voltage=
drop and it turned out that it will not work reliably enough.
>
> Regards,
> Raimund
>
> --- In Jeremiah Moore <jmoore@> wrote:
> >
> > Klas - Your statement sounds quite definitive re: Tellinga Clip-Ons not
> > working with the Sony M10.
> >
> > Being interested in a small, convenient, low noise system I've been
> > considering them, but waiting to find out if they work, so I am a littl=
e
> > disappointed!
> >
> > How have you determined that they don't work?
> >
> > regards,
> > jeremiah
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Klas Strandberg <telinga@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Telinga Clip-On's don't work with M10 without a external battery.
> > > As far as I can judge, Sony M10 already has Primo EM-172, which are
> > > the lowest noise mic's you can use without extra battery.
> > >
> > > Raimund??
> > >
> > > Klas
> > >
> > >
> > > At 07:04 2010-06-30, you wrote:
> > > >At 11:49 PM -0400 6/29/10, Charles Veasey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I recently got a sony m-10. The on-board mics are pretty decent, b=
ut i
> > > > >would prefer two small externals. What is currently my best option=
? Are
> > > > >the Telinga clip-ons available for purchase, or what is the quetie=
st
> > > > >down the line?
> > > > >
> > > > >thanks,
> > > > >charles
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Charles-
> > > >I've been updating the electret mic info for our list FAQ page. The
> > > >.doc linked in the last sentence has a pretty good summary of the
> > > >available mics bare and packaged small capsules with specs.
> > > >http://tinyurl.com/29lhzub Let me know if any one knows of further
> > > >update information I need to add to this .doc Rob D.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > > >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kr=
ause
> > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > > S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > > Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > > email: telinga@ <telinga%40bahnhof.se>
> > > website: www.telinga.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > jeremiah moore | SOUND | jmoore@
> > http://www.jeremiahmoore.com/
> >
> >
> >
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