I liked the SASS rig the most. The teliga omnis performance is really very =
good considering the size 10mm, this may take some getting used to, its lik=
e having a pair of large diaphragm condensers in your pocket. Quite a disru=
ptive product if you think of the low noise, sensitivity and cost, no need =
for xlr/phantom power, pocket recorder 3.5mm plug and go... I hope they are=
waterproof?
-Mike.
pipmics.com
--- In "Mike" <> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Please pardon for the long post.
>
> Two weekends ago I attended the naturesound recording workshop in
> Seattle. We took the opportunity to try the new Telinga Clip-Ons with a
> few different recorders and also to do an interesting simultaneous
> recording with three different rigs including the new Telingas+LS-10. A
> number of folks jumped in to help with gear and execution of the tests.
> It was a great workshop this year with a wonderful bunch of enthusiastic
> participants.
>
> Experimenting with a few different PIP recorders and the Telinga Clip-On
> mics:
>
> The Telingas were strapped to a tree at about 5' off the ground.
> They were not moved between these takes. We recorded a reference sound
> using Martyn's iPhone. I then used those reference recordings to
> normalize the recordings as well as I could. That worked fairly well
> given the lack of precision we were dealing with. Several lessons
> learned should I attempt this sort of test again in the future.
>
> These recordings were all done at 44.1 kHz/24-bit. We had the Olympus
> LS10 and LS11 and a Sony PCM-D50 on hand. They are encoded to 192 kbps
> MP3 using Sound Forge 8. PIP was provided by the recorders. We had awful
> jet and prop plane noise the entire time. In particular, the LS11
> recording has a lot of jet rumble throughout most of the sample. No
> filtering (other than the intrinsic response of the mics/recorders) was
> applied whatsoever for this comparison. The recordings are cropped to
> remove some fidgeting but contain some noise from us rustling around.
>
> I also made a recording with the Telingas powered by a DIY PIP circuit
> (which may not be providing enough current) and have included that as
> well. There is no reference level for that recording but I attempted to
> get the gain close to match the other recordings.
>
> Here is the Olympus LS10:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/LS100129_edit_LS10_comp1_gai\
> nmatched.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/LS100129_edit_LS10_comp1_ga\
> inmatched.mp3>
>
> Olympus LS11:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/LS110052_edit_LS11_comp1_gai\
> nmatched.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/LS110052_edit_LS11_comp1_ga\
> inmatched.mp3>
>
> Sony PCM-D50:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/100411_02_edit_D50_comp1_gai\
> nmatched.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/100411_02_edit_D50_comp1_ga\
> inmatched.mp3>
>
> We did a second recording with the D50 as well. I think the gain was
> unchanged:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/100411_04_edit_D50_comp2_gai\
> nmatched.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/100411_04_edit_D50_comp2_ga\
> inmatched.mp3>
>
> Finally, here is a quick recording with the Telingas powered by a
> battery box and connected to an SD 722 (again =96 this was not made at
> the same reference level but I attempted to get things in the ballpark):
>
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/T217_edit+20dB.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/T217_edit+20dB.mp3>
>
> Observations:
>
> LS10: Despite my attempts at gain matching I think that the gain is
> higher relative to the LS11 and D50 recordings so it is tough to make a
> fair comparison. Significant audible "hiss."
>
> LS11: Some audible "hiss."
>
> Sony PCM-D50: Both clips sound really good to me. Still some audible
> "hiss" but more quiet than the LS11.
>
> SD 722 with DIY PIP circuit: Sounds quite different to me. I'm
> hearing quite deep into the soundscape. The hiss is much lower but it is
> really important to remember that this recording is not normalized like
> the other. I made my best attempt to get the overall gain close to the
> other recordings.
>
> Simultaneous recording with 3 different rigs:
>
> We recorded simultaneously on three rigs at Cougar Mountain. I have
> attempted to level match these clips by ear. These recordings were all
> done at 44.1 kHz/24-bit. They are encoded to 192 kbps MP3 using Sound
> Forge 8. The files are long. No filtering (other than the intrinsic
> response of the mics/recorders) was applied whatsoever for this
> comparison.
>
> SASS mic w/MKH20's -> SD 722:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/SASS_edit1.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/SASS_edit1.mp3>
>
> M-S mic w/MKH 30/40 -> SD 722:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/MKH_M-S_edit1.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/MKH_M-S_edit1.mp3>
>
> Telinga Clip-Ons attached to a tree about 5' off the ground ->
> Olympus LS 10:
> http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/Telinga+LS10_edit1.mp3
> <http://mikewallmusic.com/MKHandTelingaOmnis/Telinga+LS10_edit1.mp3>
>
> Rob Danielson was kind enough to create the following blind test using
> excerpts from these simultaneous recordings. I find it fascinating:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y4zhvyn <http://tinyurl.com/y4zhvyn> download (19mb
> QuickTime movie)
>
> I should mention that I am not an expert on PIP issues and powering
> these types of mics. There is some question about the appropriateness of
> my DIY circuit the PIP capability of the Sony PCM-D50 with these mics
> (headroom may be limited, etc). For what it's worth the mics sound
> great to me in both of those cases (really all of the cases above) and
> given the recording environment.
>
> I apologize in advance for slow and intermittent replies! I'm in
> school right now and am heads-down.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
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