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Re: Sony PCM-D50 vs SD 702

Subject: Re: Sony PCM-D50 vs SD 702
From: "Tom Williams" pterodax
Date: Thu Apr 1, 2010 7:37 am ((PDT))
Bob,

I've recently moved away from using the rig shown on the site in favour of
one that uses the standard NT1A shockmounts with Rycote foam windshields.
It's simpler, has less parts to wear out or break, and is compact enough to
go in a medium sized backpack (sans tripod of course!)

I must update the blog with some proper details, but I won't be around over
the Easter weekend, so here's a picture in the meantime:

http://www.pterodaktyl.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/NewORTFMount1.jpg

I simply removed the boom pole mount from the Rode suspensions and bolted
them directly onto a piece of right-angle aluminium section. A 60mm length
of aluminium gives the correct ORTF spacing of 17cm between the centres of
the capsules. The aluminium can then be fitted to the quick release plate o=
f
almost any tripod (in this case a Velbon CX660) using a machine screw and
butterfly nut through the plate's 3/8" camera screw hole.

The windshields are Rycote's 45/100 LDM foams (part # 104422). These are a
relatively new product from Rycote and quite hard to track down, I ended up
ordering them direct from Rycote themselves at a cost of around =A340 ($60)=
.
They seem to offer similar wind protection to my home build wind shields an=
d
are much easier to use.

If you do decide to go with a basket and fur arrangement, the general rule
seems to be that a fabric with a relatively open weave will cause the least
attenuation of sound. For example if I hold the fur fabric I used up to a
light source you can see light passing through the fabric backing to which
the fur is attached. I did see a thread on here recently which suggested
that you can actually purchase fur in sheets directly from Rycote, so that
might be worth checking out. The air gap is an essential part of how a fur
windshield works, so just using the fur as a sock directly over the
microphone probably wouldn't be ideal. At some point I'm going to try makin=
g
up some wider fur socks and putting them on top of the Rycote foams to see
what effect that has - I'll let you know what the results are like!

Hope this slightly rushed collection of thoughts helps...

Tom



On 1 April 2010 14:52, ssislander <> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I did get the shock mounts with the NT1As, but I have been looking at you=
r
> NT1A setup here....
>
> http://www.pterodaktyl.co.uk/tag/rode-nt1-a/
>
> Looks good! I'm not up to speed on some of the basics of wind protection.
> Like how much is too much, i.e., doesn't a cover of fur or fleece etc muf=
fle
> the sound? And, does there need to be an air space around the mic? What
> would happen if I just put a fur "sock" snugly over the mic?
>
> I have a Valbon tripod though I might get something smaller and lighter f=
or
> hikes. I have thin bungie cord (3 mm) I buy by the foot that might work f=
or
> shock lines.
>
> I'm trying to keep it simple and portable and easy to set up. Any more in=
fo
> on your setup ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
> --- In <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.co=
m>,
> "Tom Williams" <> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Did you get the Rode shockmounts with the NT1As? When I bought a matche=
d
> pair last year they came with the mounts, but I'm not sure if they're
> included if you buy single mics.
> >
> > If you do have the shockmounts I can send you some details on how I put
> together an ORTF stereo rig which can be mounted on top of a lightweight
> camera tripod and stripped down for carrying in a backpack.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.=
com>,
> "ssislander" <bc.email@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Fernando,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your equipment info. I'm researching how to set up my NT1A=
s
> so can definitely see the advantage of more mobile equipment. I'll need t=
o
> hike into areas where I want to record, so portability is a factor. At le=
ast
> I'll get some use out of that backpack I bought last year.....
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In <naturerecordists%40yahoogroup=
s.com>,
> "fdisynth" <fdi@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > you'll notice electronic white noise no matter what you record...
> > > >
> > > > and water (sea is worst) is not easy to record with pleasant
> results...
> > > >
> > > > My experience is that the less directional the better (Schoeps CCM5
> in omni mode is the best I have)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, just to tell about a system I use when I need to be ultra
> light or undercover but still get good quality results: I use two DPA 406=
0
> (they are 20mV/Pa!) with their small power unit that has a 1/8'' stereo j=
ack
> output connector (MPS6030) and record in the smallest and lightest record=
er
> I have (currently a Zoom H2) and monitor with Ultrasone headphones or sma=
ll
> in-ear headphones for undercover.
> > > >
> > > > best,
> > > >
> > > > Fernando
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>









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