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Re: Yukon DSAS - request for opinions

Subject: Re: Yukon DSAS - request for opinions
From: "Krystian Zwolinski" krystianzwolinski
Date: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:40 pm ((PDT))
Rob & Klas

Thank You for your answers and all advices. I supposed, that this Yukon
can be cheap-made mike with high self-noise and poor quality. I have
some knowledge about electronics, microphones and audio equimpent but
I'm still an amateur. So Your answers are very important and educational
for me.

Rob,

as I remember, my friend's recorder has an 3,5mm mic input or/and 3,5mm
line-in. Anyway, I think that's not a problem make some DIY adapter if
it's necssesary ;)

Klas,

Your experiments with low-cost microphones are very interesting. Of
course, maybe Yukon DSAS have any good-quality capsules but in my
opinion it's price doesn't confirm that. Note, that's not only
microphone - this "system" also includes pre-amp (maybe with some good
filters?).
Also I found interesting link with scheme of this device
(
http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/Yukon_DSAS_Directional_Sound_Amplificati=
on_p/yukon-27022.htm
). See the point 3 in "Use and Testing" part. What is the "Directional
Antennae" and where is the microphone capsule? Strange thing for me...

Regards
Krystian Z.





Hi Krystian!

 I have no personal experience of this mike.

 However, two - three years ago several different low-cost (about a
 dollar / each) "super-directional-pristine quality-state of the
 Art-better than ever" mikes were released by a number of Chinese
 factories and they were all about the same.
 Apart from phase problems, the self noise is high and unpleasantly
scratchy.

 For example, I just tried out the five most impressive mikes from
 Transsound, also the one inch double membrane mike.
 It was wasting time. The electrets have a awful self noise and the
 one inch capsule (Neumann-copy) has a membrane which sticks to the
 electrode when polarizing voltage goes over 20v.
 The same thing happened when I tried out Chinese low cost capsules
 last year. They look very good, good precision, but something is
 wrong with the way they polarize the membranes.
 And I suspect such capsules are present in most low-cost mikes
 nowadays, probably also in Yukon mikes.

 If your friend really wants to try a "shot-gun" I would advice him
 (her?) to go for a ME-62 or a Röde.
 So far, in the low-cost region, Röde has proved to perform better
 quality than the others that I know of.

 Also note that directional mikes do not amplify sounds. They only
 attenuate sounds from the sides.

 Klas.

 At 00:31 2009-07-15, you wrote:
 >At 11:36 PM +0200 7/14/09, Krystian Zwolinski wrote:
 > >Hello
 > >
 > >As a new member of this group (since may this year) I want to introdu=
ce
 > >first. I'm a birder from Poland. Some time ago I interested in birds
 > >recording (in the beginning for documentation) and found that is a gr=
eat
 > >fun :) Now I'm improving my equipment and learning all the field
 > >techniques. I'm glad to be here with You. This mailing list is one of
 > >the best I know.
 > >
 > >I have question for You. My friend wants to buy Yukon DSAS directiona=
l
 > >microphone and he asked me for help. But I don't know anything about
 > >this device. I read of course all specifications but my interest is h=
ow
 > >it works in the field. Does somebody have any experience with this
 > >microphone? I would be very thankful for any opinions!
 > >
 > >Sorry for my poor english. I don't have much practise with this langu=
age..
 > >
 > >Best regards
 > >Krystian Zwolinski
 > >
 > >----------------------------------------------------
 > >Zamów Neostrad´ a dostaniesz drukark´ lub GPS! Kli=
knij:
 > >http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fneo.wp.pl%2Fpromocje.html%3Fsrc
 > 01%3D1edea&sid=3D793
 > >
 >
 >
 >Hi Krystian-
 >Welcome to the list. Your English is very good!
 >
 >Hopefully someone has personal experience with
 >the Yukon DSAS.  The mic manufacturer doesn't
 >provide specifications which is usually not a
 >good sign.
 >
 >I'd suggest looking into mics with a proven track
 >record and in the same price range or $100USD
 >more, Rode makes several:
 >
 >http://tinyurl.com/nz5ox3 (page with several models/options)
 >
 >Rode B&H Kit NTG-2 Condenser Shotgun Microphone Kit
 >
 >NT3 - Cardioid Studio Condenser Microphone
 >
 >Rode Video Mic
 >
 >I assume his recorder has an 1/8" or 3.5mm (probably stereo) mic input
jack?
 >
 >Rob D.
 >--
 >
 >
 >
 >------------------------------------
 >
 >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
 >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kraus=
e
 >Yahoo! Groups Links
 >
 >
 >
 Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
 S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
 Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
 email: 
 website: www.telinga.com





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