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Re: Yukon DSAS - request for opinions

Subject: Re: Yukon DSAS - request for opinions
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:03 pm ((PDT))
Krystian,

If you send me your address in Poland to my private email, I will
send you a similar mike for free.
(Except the headphone amp, which means that you have to have it
connected to a recorder.)

Klas.

At 23:19 2009-07-16, you wrote:
>Rob & Klas
>
>Thank You for your answers and all advices. I supposed, that this Yukon
>can be cheap-made mike with high self-noise and poor quality. I have
>some knowledge about electronics, microphones and audio equimpent but
>I'm still an amateur. So Your answers are very important and educational
>for me.
>
>Rob,
>
>as I remember, my friend's recorder has an 3,5mm mic input or/and 3,5mm
>line-in. Anyway, I think that's not a problem make some DIY adapter if
>it's necssesary ;)
>
>Klas,
>
>Your experiments with low-cost microphones are very interesting. Of
>course, maybe Yukon DSAS have any good-quality capsules but in my
>opinion it's price doesn't confirm that. Note, that's not only
>microphone - this "system" also includes pre-amp (maybe with some good
>filters?).
>Also I found interesting link with scheme of this device
>(
>http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/Yukon_DSAS_Directional_Sound_Amplificat=
ion_p/yukon-27022.htm
>
>). See the point 3 in "Use and Testing" part. What is the "Directional
>Antennae" and where is the microphone capsule? Strange thing for me...
>
>Regards
>Krystian Z.
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Krystian!
>
>  I have no personal experience of this mike.
>
>  However, two - three years ago several different low-cost (about a
>  dollar / each) "super-directional-pristine quality-state of the
>  Art-better than ever" mikes were released by a number of Chinese
>  factories and they were all about the same.
>  Apart from phase problems, the self noise is high and unpleasantly
>scratchy.
>
>  For example, I just tried out the five most impressive mikes from
>  Transsound, also the one inch double membrane mike.
>  It was wasting time. The electrets have a awful self noise and the
>  one inch capsule (Neumann-copy) has a membrane which sticks to the
>  electrode when polarizing voltage goes over 20v.
>  The same thing happened when I tried out Chinese low cost capsules
>  last year. They look very good, good precision, but something is
>  wrong with the way they polarize the membranes.
>  And I suspect such capsules are present in most low-cost mikes
>  nowadays, probably also in Yukon mikes.
>
>  If your friend really wants to try a "shot-gun" I would advice him
>  (her?) to go for a ME-62 or a Röde.
>  So far, in the low-cost region, Röde has proved to perform better
>  quality than the others that I know of.
>
>  Also note that directional mikes do not amplify sounds. They only
>  attenuate sounds from the sides.
>
>  Klas.
>
>  At 00:31 2009-07-15, you wrote:
>  >At 11:36 PM +0200 7/14/09, Krystian Zwolinski wrote:
>  > >Hello
>  > >
>  > >As a new member of this group (since may this year) I want to intro=
duce
>  > >first. I'm a birder from Poland. Some time ago I interested in bird=
s
>  > >recording (in the beginning for documentation) and found that is a =
great
>  > >fun :) Now I'm improving my equipment and learning all the field
>  > >techniques. I'm glad to be here with You. This mailing list is one =
of
>  > >the best I know.
>  > >
>  > >I have question for You. My friend wants to buy Yukon DSAS directio=
nal
>  > >microphone and he asked me for help. But I don't know anything abou=
t
>  > >this device. I read of course all specifications but my interest is=
 how
>  > >it works in the field. Does somebody have any experience with this
>  > >microphone? I would be very thankful for any opinions!
>  > >
>  > >Sorry for my poor english. I don't have much practise with this
> language..
>  > >
>  > >Best regards
>  > >Krystian Zwolinski
>  > >
>  > >----------------------------------------------------
>  > >Zamów Neostrad´ a dostaniesz drukark´ lub
> GPS! Kliknij:
>  > >http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fneo.wp.pl%2Fpromocje.html%3Fs=
rc
>  > 01%3D1edea&sid=3D793
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >Hi Krystian-
>  >Welcome to the list. Your English is very good!
>  >
>  >Hopefully someone has personal experience with
>  >the Yukon DSAS.  The mic manufacturer doesn't
>  >provide specifications which is usually not a
>  >good sign.
>  >
>  >I'd suggest looking into mics with a proven track
>  >record and in the same price range or $100USD
>  >more, Rode makes several:
>  >
>  >http://tinyurl.com/nz5ox3 (page with several models/options)
>  >
>  >Rode B&H Kit NTG-2 Condenser Shotgun Microphone Kit
>  >
>  >NT3 - Cardioid Studio Condenser Microphone
>  >
>  >Rode Video Mic
>  >
>  >I assume his recorder has an 1/8" or 3.5mm (probably stereo) mic inpu=
t
>jack?
>  >
>  >Rob D.
>  >--
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >------------------------------------
>  >
>  >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>  >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kra=
use
>  >Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>  S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>  Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>  email: 
>  website: www.telinga.com
>
>
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Podr=80=A0=A6=F3=BFujemy tanio, ale niebanalnie
>Odkrywamy nieodkryte, zbaczamy z utartych szlak=80=A0=A6=F3w
>Do=80=A0=A6=B3=B1cz do nas: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fnavige=
o.pl&sid=3D796
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email: 
website: www.telinga.com
        








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