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Re: Flight path maps

Subject: Re: Flight path maps
From: "Steve Pelikan" pelikan45224
Date: Wed Apr 8, 2009 7:22 pm ((PDT))
I agree with the  7-8 minutes that Curt mentions as being required for a pl=
ane to pass. And they sure can add up and overlap near where I live.

I often have better luck recording fairly near an airport (Delta hub in Cin=
cinnati) because they schedule flights to all arrive at about the same time=
 and leave a while later. So there's a window of  pretty decent quiet (7:30=
-7:50 AM for example).

Anyway, if you're near an airport it is probably worth asking about schedul=
es as this might be of some help. Plus you can then express your concerns t=
o a contact who might remember them or at least be in charge of fielding co=
mplaints...

SP


--- In  Curt Olson <> wrote:
>
> Justin wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know any website for seeing the flight paths of all the =

> > aeroplanes in an area, on a map? I tried searching through google
> > map, but couldn't find anything, nor elsewhere.
> >
> > I was disappointed on my first recording trip to hear aeroplanes
> > every few minutes! Literally about every 3 minutes for a while.
> > Other than that, the place was very quiet, with lovely natural
> > sounds. Though I've been told they have less in the morning, I think =

> > perhaps I should be searching another area. A map would be most
> > instructive. (I'm in the Kanto area of Japan by the way).
> >
> > I did manage to find this map of airports (a horrific number of them!)
> > http://www.mapstars.com/map-countries/asia/japan/map-airports-
> > japan.htm
> > But without the actual flight paths it doesn't tell me much.
>
> In the US there is:
>
> http://flightaware.com/
>
> Using it I've figured out that the aircraft that spoiled this
> otherwise pristine recording last spring...
>
> http://www.trackseventeen.com/soundblog/x080522g-loons_jet.mp3
>
> ...was probably a westbound flight between either NY or Boston and
> Seattle. Eastbound flights between Seattle and NY or Boston usually
> seem to be routed across Minnesota about 100 miles to the south.
>
> > On a slightly different topic, if one did come into my recording, is =

> > there any hope of removing it while keeping the rest of the sound?
> > (I mean, remove those frequencies, not just cut out that part in
> > time). If so, what software would I use (Mac)?
>
> Like Rob said, the sound is too broadband to be removed. A couple
> weeks ago I heard a valiant attempt to do exactly that in a recording =

> very similar to the one above. The software used was a new Beta
> version of SoundSoap Pro. It removed a lot of the unwanted jet noise, =

> but did too much damage to what was left. Not an acceptable tradeoff, =

> IMO.
>
> Interestingly, I've found that in quiet locations, a jet overflight
> will last about 8 minutes from the first hint of it to when it's gone.
>
> Curt Olson
>








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