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Re: Olympus LS-10 and Sony D-50

Subject: Re: Olympus LS-10 and Sony D-50
From: "lilyplants" lilyplants
Date: Sun Jul 6, 2008 1:26 pm ((PDT))
Rob, thank you for responding to my question. Followed up on your response 
before 
getting back (also, didn't know how to respond from the bioacoustics site, so 
returned to 
this Yahoo site. is yahoo the only way to communicate?)

So after read everything on the site including all the reviews and listening to 
all upload 
recordings and review recordings, I have further questions.

Even though individuals are recommending the LS-10 and getting bird recordings 
with 
certain settings and mics, I'm still having a problem with the unit.


First, I want to do a variety of ambient sounds as well as music. For example, 
the sound of 
a field of tall grasses for a sound installation; groups of people in an urban 
environment; 
live and DJ music.

Goal: a you are there feeling which involves.



--- In  Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>
> At 3:48 AM +0000 7/5/08, lilyplants wrote:
> >I ordered the Olympus LS-10 thinking it would be much easier to use 
> >than my MD Sony
> >MZM100 with soundprofessional binaural mics. It is.
> >
> >But it doesn't seem sensitive enough (okay with on high sen, 24, 
> >limiter on and clip off).
> >
> >I want it to sound as good as possible with ambient and music. The 
> >Japanese warbler is much
> >better recording than I have achieved.
> >
> >What really confuses me are the sound samples. Those Sony PCM D-50 on the
> >Wingfieldaudio.com site are moving (more overtones). The choir 
> >sample of the LS is fatiquing
> >and uninteresting. YET the samples provides on this site show both 
> >to be noisy although not
> >as noisy as the R09 (can't remember who did them (4 "point and 
> >shoot" recorders).
> >
> >How does one account for these differences.
> >and Can one achieve better results with one of these recorders over the 
> >other?
> >
> >I'm new to ambient recording. Thank you for your help.
> >lily
> 
> Hi Lily--
> The "hi-sensitivity" setting does make make good sense for ambience 
> recording. Maybe turn the Limiter off? Someone who owns an LS-10 
> might be able to post the settings checklist they follow for 
> recording quieter sounds and settings.  Close-mic'd music should 
> produce sufficient sound levels to work with.
> 
> As for improving the performance of the LS-10, I'd definitely follow 
> Vicki's recent comparison tests and suggestions including using Shure 
> WL183 external mics. Other recordists have been posting recordings 
> with comments.  Here's a search of "LS-10" in the list archive: 
> http://tinyurl.com/5bwupr  Raimund's suggestion of using external 
> mics with low self-noise and very high sensitivity is a good one 
> though there aren't too many mics to recommend that meet these specs 
> that are well-suited for recording ambience.
> 
> In interpreting the samples provided in the review web sites, look 
> for tests done in the field using high gain (and preferably with 
> specified condenser mics, if external mics are used).  Most of the 
> conditions I've come across to date are not similar to those found in 
> nature recording so they are not a very good indicators of the 
> performance you might get.  Rob D.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
>






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