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4. Re: OLYMPUS LS-10 VS DAT RECORDINGS UPLOADED

Subject: 4. Re: OLYMPUS LS-10 VS DAT RECORDINGS UPLOADED
From: "Vicki Powys" vpowys
Date: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:21 pm ((PDT))
Max, and everyone,

I will post a photo on the naturerecordists web page, of my home-made
wind cover for the LS-10.  It works OK in a light breeze, and has an
air gap between the fleece and the mics.  I have left the foam
windshields on also.

Mt. Airly where I recorded the lyrebirds certainly is a lovely place,
but it does have its share of motor bike riders on weekends, plus
helicopter joy flights may soon take place overhead.  Added to that,
the lyrebirds have been very quiet for the past 5 years or so, due to
prolonged drought conditions.  It has been wonderful to see and hear
them again this winter, following some recent wet weather (lyrebirds
like it damp and cold!)

Max, your ME66 should be a big improvement on the built in mics, for
picking up individual birds.  However I am surprised that you need
the recording volume at 10 for the built in mics, as I have been able
to record smaller birds using a setting of 5.  I have not yet
experimented with higher resolution than 44/16, nor have I upgraded
the software.  I might add that the recorder sold to me in Australia
was made in China!  Are the US and UK recorders made in China or Japan?

Vicki Powys
Australia




On 26/06/2008, at 10:09 PM, Max Catterwell wrote:

> Hi Vicki!
> What an incredible sounding bird! I've never heard one of these before
> (they don't often turn up on the Cambridgeshire fens) and I was just
> stunned. How wonderful to have such a quiet place to record;
> dreamlike.
> I have never been able to have my LS-10 on any other level than 10, so
> to see you using 5 amazed me. And even on level 10 the meter was never
> topping out. So far, apart from using the built in mics, I've been
> using
> a MKE300.  I'm awaiting a ME66/K6 combination to use with this, and
> will
> be very interested to see if it makes the difference in recording
> level
> that you achieved with the 67. Have you updated your firmware with the
> latest from Japan? I should add that I too use high sensitivity and
> low
> cut filter on. I have started to use 48/24 as I read, that as in
> photograpy, a greater bit depth sampling rate was better from an
> editing
> point of view. If you weren't aware, it should be obvious I'm just
> starting out on this fascinating road. Having heard your recordings
> though, I feel I made the right decision re recorder. I would be very
> interested to see, or have you describe, the 'better windshield'
> you made.
> Many thanks for sharing your fantastic recordings, not only
> wonderful to
> hear, but instructive also.
> Max
>
>
>
> Vicki Powys wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have uploaded three mp3 files (all less than 1 MB) to the members
>> files area.  The subject is a Superb Lyrebird recorded in the forest
>> at Mt. Airly in NSW.  In each recording I was about 10-15 metres
>> away, with little or no breeze.  No filtering has been used, so that
>> you can compare the raw result for three different recording
>> combinations.  With the LS-10, I recorded as WAV 44/16, and high
>> sensitivity mode.
>>
>> 1. LS-10, built in mics, low cut on, recording volume 5
>>
>> 2. LS-10, Sennheiser ME67 mic, low cut on, recording volume 2
>>
>> 3. Sony TCD D10 DAT with Sennheiser ME67 mic, recording volume about
>> 2-3.
>>
>> There is more system noise in (1) but the sound quality is still very
>> good.  I had the low cut switched on because of occasional breeze.
>> The addition of the ME67 to the LS-10 in (2) was an improvement and
>> there was less system noise, altho the quality of the sound would
>> have been less thin with the low cut switched off.  The DAT recording
>> (3) has less system noise and the best sound quality.
>>
>> I might add that using the LS-10 with built in mics was a dream for
>> stalking the elusive and shy lyrebirds!  I could carry it in my
>> pocket and had no tangle of leads and mics and monopods.  The results
>> are very acceptable for scientific study.  I have had to make a
>> better windshield for the inbuilt mics, but otherwise I am very
>> pleased with the LS-10.
>>
>> Has anyone tried the LS-10 with lavalier mics e.g. WL183s?
>>
>> Vicki Powys
>> Australia
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>> Krause
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>




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