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Subject: Re: 5.1 mobile recording
From: "maxfrick78" maxfrick78
Date: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:32 pm ((PST))
Umashankar,
it's a lot easier to guess the mic-angle if you directly compare it to a 90=
 degrees XY-mic
(Rode NT4 in this case). That's what I did, and it sounded narrower.

But are you saying the front mic's are really angled at 60 degrees?? What i=
s the angle of
the rear mics then?
The manual clearly says they should be angled at 90 degrees on the front si=
de and 120
degrees on the back. I didn't check that, but why would they tell that... ?=
 It WOULD explain
the narrow image though...

greets,
max


--- In  umashankar <> wrote:
>
> i am impressed you could tell the microphone angles! in fact the front pa=
ir are about  60
degrees, facing each other.
>
> i have just taken apart my brand new zoom H 2 after about five minutes of=
 recording.
the aim is  to remove those microphones (which are actually quite interesti=
ng) and replace
them with four tsb 120s arranged as a soundfield mic, mounted on a stem com=
ing out of
the zoom. i will have then the world's cheapest high quality sound field sy=
stem (200
dollars + 4 * 20 dollars). the zoom can be mounted on a stand, it probably =
can even be
put at the focus of a telinga. think of it as a mic rather than a recorder.
>
> umashankar
>
> i have published my poems. you can read (or buy) at
http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nosfoe <>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:19:51 AM
> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: 5.1 mobile recording
>
>
> I own a Zoom H2 and the mics sound quite amazing for the price
> (meaning: realtively uncoloured), but they are of course not very
> silent. I would say the selfnoise is around 23 to 30 dB(A). Something =

> you should know about the mic-setup is that the front mics, which are =

> angled at 90 degrees, sound more like 60 degrees. The rear mics,
> angled at 120 degrees, actually sound like 90 degrees. It's a pretty
> amazing recorder for the money (180=A4). A positive thing to mention is  =

> the ease of use. The Zoom H4 is a bit quirky, but this one is simple
> and straightforeward.
>
> The holophone uses 6 DPA 4060's afaik, so watch out, the self-noise
> of those mics is around 23dB(A)! Not particularly low for recording
> nature.
> greets,
> max
>
>
>
> --- In  Rob Danielson <type@> wrote:
> >
> > At 9:46 AM -0800 12/10/07, umashankar wrote:
> > >i had not beene following this discussion but i have just purchased
> > >the zoom h2, and it records 4 channels using built in mics. and
> > >daniel courville has some apple software to convert the four
> > >channels into 5.1
> > >
> > >umashankar
> >
> >
> > Umashankar--
> > I saw that some folks on the SurSound list are looking into ways of
> > inserting their own mics into the H2's circuit. I think that
> > Terence's mics on the Holophone HD3 are all omni-directional, but
> > they might be a good match for the H2 mic pre. Do you have a theory
> > about the array/processing Samson is using to produce the two stereo
> > pair tracks from the three, built-in mics?  Rob D.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>
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>
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>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
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