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Re: Shure WL183 and PCM-D50

Subject: Re: Shure WL183 and PCM-D50
From: "Steve Cox" naturalsoundscapes
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 10:47 pm ((PST))
Thanks for clearing this up John. I was a bit confused about the part  
number scheme for the 158 capsules. I listened to your 183 clip on  
your gear page and quite like these mics.  It looks like that's what  
I'll be getting. Although I think my first choice would be the EMKS  
23's but they are bit over the top for me currently.

Steve Cox

On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:24 AM, John Hartog wrote:

> I can't speak for the PCM-D50, but the wl-183s worked fine for me on a
> MZ-N707 MD recorder, and on HiMDs RH10 and NH700.
> The EM-158 is the raw element only, and the BI-158 is a stereo set of
> EM-158's built into a housing and wired ready to use. Otherwise they
> are the same. When comparing them to the wl-183s, I found the BI-158
> to be noticeably a little noisier. Either way, both mics are kinda
> noisy for quiet settings. Even so, some of my favorite recordings were
> made with the 183s.
> John Hartog
> --- In  Steve Cox <>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all. I have another question for the list as I try to  
> narrow my
> > choices for PIP powered omni capsules. Still waiting to hear if the
> > Prime EM-158 is the same as the Bedford Technical Bi-158's....
> >
> > Anyway, as far as the Shure goes from what I gather it needs a bit
> > more PIP voltage than some of the recorders supply. I very much  
> would
> > like to avoid a separate battery supply if I can help it. The specs
> > on the Sony PCM-D50 recorder has this to say in regards to external
> > mic power:
> >
> > Microphone Input (stereo mini jack):
> > Input impedance: 22k, rated input level: 2.5mV, minimum input level:
> > 0.7mV. Supports external mic plug-in power.
> >
> > I know that the Shure's might need more power than the PIP circuits
> > in the Sony MZ-R37's. I wasn't sure if I'd have this same problem
> > with the flash-based PCM-D50.
> >
> > Any opinions/tips/suggestions would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Steve Cox
> >

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