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Re: field recordings with mobile phone application, audioTagger

Subject: Re: field recordings with mobile phone application, audioTagger
From: "eva sjuve" marsflicka
Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 1:56 am ((PDT))
so it seems like the most useful tool would include audio, video, text
and pictures, or any data existing for a specific site. most of the maps
I have seen so far has hardcoded the data into the maps. a better option
is to build an archive out of the data, as in audioTagger, to be able
generate the data in realtime, for field trips.just a thought anyway.

so, it is not that easy to automate a match of ID, but maybe to make a
selection of matches would be useful?

audio archives. you also have free sounds

thanks for your thoughts

w.p.vellinga wrote:
> hi Eva & Marc,
> for an example of maps based on calls see e.g.
> <> This is
> the Rufous Antpitta, candidate for a multiple split based (primarily) on
> vocal characters in different areas. You'll see and hear the calls
> differ considerably across the range. (Nothing that was not known
> already but nice to see anyway, as published recordings are scattered
> across many cd's, tapes, cdroms what have you, and plenty of recordings
> remain buried in private archives/dusty boxes.) An example of a species
> that recently has been proposed for a split in at least 5 species is
> here:
> <> The
> paper in which they were split showed plenty of sonograms but there was
> no way in which you could actually hear the sounds! This map seems to be
> the only place where you can. Of course the data in the paper was more
> systematic in coverage of different call types across regions and forms,
> but still.
> A test version showing different species in one map is here
> <> (This is all in KM=
> just like the map Bernie Krause has mentioned a few weeks ago. That is
> nice because in principle you could add all the data in the map to a
> personal archive of geospatial data that you have, and show it in Google
> Earth e.g.) Unlike Bernie we can't figure out how to get the sounds
> playing in this particular format, yet. : (
> Systems that allow uploading of observational data (sightings, pictures)
> from mobile devices to a database exist see e.g. I
> don't see why sounds could not be added to that. I think it would be
> very nice. People seem to be more reluctant to share sounds than
> pictures or videos, the easier it gets the better.
> To make useful maps people do need to know what it is they are hearing
> and uploading: not that easy! There aren't that many people that are
> familiar with all the sounds of a certain geographical area, and
> sound-field-guides are only in their infancy (and just for for Europe
> and the States). In xeno-canto some of the people who do know point out
> mistakes every now and again, and with more recordings coming in the
> users will eventually be able to compare their uploads against others
> for a first check.
> Now as far as automatic ID of sounds is concerned, that is not that
> easy! On xeno-canto we use an interactive system, that only works well
> for some types of sounds An automatic
> system is on our to-do list : ) The only thing on the web I know of is
> at If anyone has found something else do let me know.
> sorry for long post,
> cheers,
> Willem-Pier
> Marc Myers wrote:
>  >
>  > This is very cool technology. To anyone's knowledge is there software
>  > that can search this database of sounds for known waveforms? Birds of
>  > course but many animals have distinctive calls. Seems to me with
>  > phones ubiquitous in even the most remote areas it would be possible
>  > to generate range maps based on calls fairly easily.

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