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4. Re: Visit to the Master Recordists

Subject: 4. Re: Visit to the Master Recordists
From: "Philip Tyler" macmang4125
Date: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:46 pm ((PDT))
Hi

I would hardly call my PowerBook G4 1.25Ghz machine
new, yes it does have the latest version of the
operating system including QuickTime on it. Yet I
encountered no problems on the site myself using this
system, I have yet to try the PC, I built, but intend
to try it out as I am interested to see if there are
any problems using that system, just out of curiosity.

With your 'Flash' problem did you try re-installing
'Flash' as that should re-set the MIME types, always
worth a try with problems like that.

Phil


--- John Hartog <> wrote:

> Hi Walt,
> 
> This is a communication issue, so you are right that
> it would not be
> fair to point only at the poster when
> troubleshooting breakdowns. 
> 
> However, I'm not sure if everyone updating to
> "completely modern"
> systems would solve many problems.  I'd be willing
> to bet 100% of
> those that mentioned having mp3 playability issues
> are actually using
> modern systems.  Sure we could all go buy brand new
> Macs as you
> suggest, and then at least then we might all have
> identical problems,
> but I'm not sure we would have less problems.
> 
> In my experience modern versions of software are
> just as likely to
> cause issues as older versions.  Like when I updated
> Quicktime and it
> set itself as the default player for Flash, a MIME
> type it didn't even
> support - it took me about a year to figure that one
> out. Updating to
> new versions of Quicktime didn't help, and searching
> through to the
> apple website didn't help at all.  What solved that
> problem was
> bringing it up on this group where one person had
> solved a similar
> problem and shared that knowledge. 
> 
> John Hartog
> 
> 
> 
> --- In  Walter
> Knapp <> wrote:
> >
> > Posted by: "George Paul"
> > 
> > > Thanks John:  I imagine it is possible, but I
> don't know how that 
> > > would have happened.  I am at the office now and
> don't have access to 
> > > my sound editor, which is Apple's Logic Pro
> version 7.2.
> > > 
> > > However, at least I thought I bounced the 24 bit
> file in Logic Pro 
> > > down to an MP3 in the normal fashion.  I did not
> see that there were 
> > > ways to get idiosyncratic bit rates when one
> does that, at least on 
> > > purpose.  I will check that out tonight,
> particularly the 320 kbps 
> > > vs. 193 kbps issue.  Quite disconcerting.
> > 
> > It's possible these readings are some software
> that does not understand 
> > VBR (variable bit rate) files. Again, it's windows
> software that most 
> > often has problems with VBR. VBR is very valuable
> for reducing file
> size 
> >   while preserving quality. It's been around and
> implemented for a long 
> > time, at least 10 years. But many programmers just
> keep using old code 
> > that does not read it correctly.
> > 
> > I know, within this group, every time I used VBR
> files there would be 
> > some who's software would balk. But it's been some
> time since I put
> up a 
> > VBR file. I just end up with lower quality on a
> fixed bit rate file to 
> > post so that I won't have to deal with those with
> poor software. It 
> > would be nice if everyone checked their software
> capabilities carefully 
> > and got software that was up to date. Then
> somewhat higher quality
> files 
> > could be posted without increasing file size.
> > 
> > The bottom line is that most of these problems are
> not the fault of the 
> > person posting, but of the people who do not keep
> their computer
> systems 
> > up to date. Before pointing at the poster, check
> your own system and 
> > make sure it's completely modern. This is
> especially true if what you 
> > are trying to get down was produced by Apple
> software which is
> generally 
> > kept up to date with the latest features. Windows
> software is much more 
> > sloppy about updating.
> > 
> > > Or, could it be the server?  
> > 
> > The server is sending the mp3 file in the normal
> manner here. Of course 
> > my macs have no problems with the spaces in the
> filenames. If you
> are on 
> > dialup (as I am) or another slow connection your
> download will come
> down 
> > in pieces and you can start playing it when only a
> few seconds are
> down. 
> > But if you wait until it's all down it will all
> play. Some browsers
> will 
> > have a progress bar, others no real indicator.
> > 
> > Walt
> >
> 
> 
> 



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