Hi Walt,
This is a communication issue, so you are right that it would not be
fair to point only at the poster when troubleshooting breakdowns.
However, I'm not sure if everyone updating to "completely modern"
systems would solve many problems. I'd be willing to bet 100% of
those that mentioned having mp3 playability issues are actually using
modern systems. Sure we could all go buy brand new Macs as you
suggest, and then at least then we might all have identical problems,
but I'm not sure we would have less problems.
In my experience modern versions of software are just as likely to
cause issues as older versions. Like when I updated Quicktime and it
set itself as the default player for Flash, a MIME type it didn't even
support - it took me about a year to figure that one out. Updating to
new versions of Quicktime didn't help, and searching through to the
apple website didn't help at all. What solved that problem was
bringing it up on this group where one person had solved a similar
problem and shared that knowledge.
John Hartog
--- In Walter Knapp <> wrote:
>
> Posted by: "George Paul"
>
> > Thanks John: I imagine it is possible, but I don't know how that
> > would have happened. I am at the office now and don't have access to
> > my sound editor, which is Apple's Logic Pro version 7.2.
> >
> > However, at least I thought I bounced the 24 bit file in Logic Pro
> > down to an MP3 in the normal fashion. I did not see that there were
> > ways to get idiosyncratic bit rates when one does that, at least on
> > purpose. I will check that out tonight, particularly the 320 kbps
> > vs. 193 kbps issue. Quite disconcerting.
>
> It's possible these readings are some software that does not understand
> VBR (variable bit rate) files. Again, it's windows software that most
> often has problems with VBR. VBR is very valuable for reducing file
size
> while preserving quality. It's been around and implemented for a long
> time, at least 10 years. But many programmers just keep using old code
> that does not read it correctly.
>
> I know, within this group, every time I used VBR files there would be
> some who's software would balk. But it's been some time since I put
up a
> VBR file. I just end up with lower quality on a fixed bit rate file to
> post so that I won't have to deal with those with poor software. It
> would be nice if everyone checked their software capabilities carefully
> and got software that was up to date. Then somewhat higher quality
files
> could be posted without increasing file size.
>
> The bottom line is that most of these problems are not the fault of the
> person posting, but of the people who do not keep their computer
systems
> up to date. Before pointing at the poster, check your own system and
> make sure it's completely modern. This is especially true if what you
> are trying to get down was produced by Apple software which is
generally
> kept up to date with the latest features. Windows software is much more
> sloppy about updating.
>
> > Or, could it be the server?
>
> The server is sending the mp3 file in the normal manner here. Of course
> my macs have no problems with the spaces in the filenames. If you
are on
> dialup (as I am) or another slow connection your download will come
down
> in pieces and you can start playing it when only a few seconds are
down.
> But if you wait until it's all down it will all play. Some browsers
will
> have a progress bar, others no real indicator.
>
> Walt
>
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