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Subject: 2. Re: Visit to the Master Recordists
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_rob
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:53 am ((PDT))
At 7:11 AM +1000 7/12/07, Paul Jacobson wrote:
>George Paul, Rob and all
>
>The main problem with the validator is it checks the that the coding
>of your page has a valid syntax. What happens inside that synatx can
>be loaded with problems and will still work.
>
>I've taken a look at the page code and the first thing I'd be fixing
>is the spaces in the path names. I've had problems on a site I
>maintain with with IE choking on url's with encoded characters in the
>past. Spaces are not legal characters for URL's so get encoded as "%
>20", either by the web server or your authoring program. The Raccon
>url for instance is currently:
>
>"Welcome  _files/mp3%20racoon%20encounter%20publis.mp3"
>
>to eliminate the path name from the list of likely suspects try
>renaming folders and files to:
>
>"Welcome_files/mp3_racoon_encounter_publis.mp3"    for example...


Yes, the spaces in the file titles might be playing a role and some
suggest not using capital letters too. Another variable is that the
file management program the server uses to assign "file type" can
interact with the browser-based ftp scripting used. This can result
in different file types being created on the server which the
different browsers can respond to differently. Using an FTP app is
safer, but not issue-free either.

The folks who care for FF's code seem more on top of changes and
issues.  When we encounter an issue we have to work-around, Safari
and IE are more often involved, but not always. As Walt has
suggested, Nvu looks like a good, free, well-supported,
cross-platform app. Try to test file playing on all three browsers.
The authoring software users group should be the first to notice
issues e.g. http://forum.nvudev.org/ Rob D.


>
>cheers
>Paul
>
>
>On 12/07/2007, at 2:06 AM, Rob Danielson wrote:
>
>>  At 2:14 PM +0000 7/11/07, George Paul wrote:
>>>  I received an e-mail from Gerald, GWAPuffin, as follows:
>>>
>>>  "George Paul,
>>>  I have FireFox installed and it uses QuickTime to play the files, it
>>>  works the way you would
>>>  expect.  The problem is with IE and Windows Meda Player, I don't
>>>  think IE recognizes the
>>>  format that your web page is using.  I only mention the problem
>>>  because there may be
>>>  many
>>>  people that can not hear the files, it is possible to do a work
>>>  around but many users just
>>>  use
>>>  one product and depend on it working as expected.
>>>  Gerald"
>>>
>>>  Thanks Gerald:
>>>
>>>  Just curious.  I built that site with Apples iWeb software.  I was
>>>  assuming it could be
>>>  accessed by all web browsers.
>>>
>>>  Just to know, how many other people could not access the site, and
>>>  what browser are they
>>>  using?  It is good to know these things, as who wants to build a web
>>>  site if no one can
>>>  look at it?  Indeed, many might just try for a second or two, and if
>>>  things aren't working,
>>>  they give up and go on to something else.  You really have to look
>>>  at something to trouble
>>>  shoot, just as Puffin says.
>>>
>>>  Thanks to Gerald for tipping us all off to this dynamic and
>>>  possible problem.
>>>
>>>  George Paul
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  This is on-topic to the extent that we are discussing ways of
>>  accessing each other's work.
>>
>>  I did a quick search and pros are reporting that the iWeb code (for
>>  the newest version only), though bulky, is for the most part web
>>  compliant-. George's page seems to be compliant:
>>  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fweb.mac.com%2Fgeopaul
>>  %2FiWeb%2FThe%2520Visit%2FWelcome%2520%2520.html
>>
>>  I could not find any specific references to mp3 download issues with
>>  IE. With this compliancy in mind, Jerry's IE difficulty spells out
>>  the dilemma pretty clearly for me.  As a novice web page maker, which
>>  is easier for me to do?  (1) Help visitors who come to my site using
>>  IE adjust their settings and update their plugs or (2) Encourage them
>>  to try FireFox?   FireFox also has excellent accessibility support.
>>
>>  I've not heard from one IE/Windows XP user who went back to regular
>  > use of IE after using FireFox as their regular browser. It takes
>>  about 5 minutes to install (DSL) and you can import all of your IE
>>  bookmarks.  I checked my website and Firefox (42%) is now edging out
>>  and IE (41%) and Safari is at %15,.  IE was closer to 70% last
>>  spring, so more folks could be exercising their options. Rob D.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>>  sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>>  Krause
>>
>>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


--
Rob Danielson
Peck School of the Arts
Department of Film
University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee






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