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Re: Telinga Stereo-DAT compared with Twin Science?

Subject: Re: Telinga Stereo-DAT compared with Twin Science?
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:09 am ((PDT))
>snip..
>
>There is a definite advantage to recording ambience along with the
>subject. One of the cool things I got a taste of last Tuesday is
>hearing another bird answering the main singer! It made me wish I had
>two parabolics. It really seemed like two House Finches were taking
>turns singing! I couldn't decide whether to keep the dish aimed at
>one of them or to try to second-guess their turn-taking. I ended up
>getting some of the former and some of the latter, and in hindsight I
>should've done the former for the entire time, as it makes for a more
>interesting and meaningful listen. (Plus, my initial impression that
>they were taking turns didn't seems as accurate once I started
>"taking turns" with my microphone.)

Also: I have a "mystery bird" which is recorded mono, about 100
meters away. There are two calls in the same bush, but no one can say
if it's the same bird or not.
I'm not sure, but I think that one could have heard that, using a
stereo DATmic. Not on the calls, but on the reflections. I even think
you could have some smart guy make a visual analysis of the reflections,


> >Film sound is another niche for Twin Science. They often want the
> >sound to be as clinical and pure as possible, and then mix it into a
> >stereo background.
>
>I can see this would definitely make sense, because you can separate
>out tasks for the crew. There can be one person tending to the
>camera, another holding the parabolic microphone, another (or maybe
>more than one) doing the background recording. With everything
>separated, they can choose exactly what levels to mix at.

Not only that. If there is too much ambience in the sound track, you
will hear the cuts.

>However, a film crew generally knows exactly what they want to get.
>I'm a one-man crew, and I film whatever beautiful/interesting birds I
>find on my walks. So the stereo probably still makes more sense.
>
>However, for my project of collecting/studying House Finch songs, the
>Twin Science might make more sense. I want to set up a "grid" in the
>area where I live, and visit each square of the grid at least once to
>record the finches there (and visit again later if I have no luck).
>Since their songs are so localized, I know for some I'll have no
>choice but to record in a noisy part of the city.
>
>If I have a better idea of just how much better the Twin Science is
>at "clinical" recording, I'll better be able to decide whether to buy one.

I don't know what your finches sound like,  but I am quite sure that
you can "boost" the call from them by optimizing the Twin Science
cardioid, compared to what you get with the Stereo DATmic.

Klas.




>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
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>
>

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