I agree Klas; this is a very important part of the group.
I do wish people would actually try this stuff "in the field" as it were.
It is all well talking about quiet pre-amps etc but we need to know how it
performs in all weather too. IE: you would not take anything other than a
MKH mic to the tropics etc (well I wouldn't anyway :)
Reading specs for a machine to me is not good enough; actual field testing
is what we need. We don't get much of that except "the PMD-660" has loud
pre-amps, that doesn't really matter to the person recording in the Tropics;
it is too loud to hear the pre-amps....
I just call for more field technique that's all...
Martyn
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On Behalf Of Klas Strandberg
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:22 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] should we change the name of this group to
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I, too, can get bored with the tech-talk in this group.
When I was young there were people who took a few pictures and then stayed
in the darkroom for the rest of the year, testing papers and developers.
Others took a lot of documentary pictures and didn't care much about the
quality.
Very few combined the two approaches.
The same can be seen among nature sound recordists. Some like recording
birds, others like finding the best equipment. "Making the perfect
recordings".
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In my comprehension, Rob, me and others have done their very best to try to
kill old myths about the need for preamps, for example. Myth's which have
costed a lot of people a lot of money, spending dollars on equipment which
is not needed.
How good is the input amp of a common Hi-MD? That's Rob's question, and I
think it is a very good one.
But it is still controversial and very difficult. Tests made are often
unreliable and have many possible errors.
On top of this, there is a new generation of recorders coming up. Flash
recorders and others.
So, for ones, I think this discussion is relevant also for the "true nature
sound lover" mostly spending his money on travelling and a new tent /
sleeping bag.
The more we can simplify the use of extra equipment, finding
straightforward budget designs, the more such a person can buy flight
tickets to new and thrilling parts of the world, instead of running about
in hi-fi shops, being a victim of myths and sales people.
Klas.
At 15:37 2005-12-05, you wrote:
>There used to be a group of people who frequently posted sounds of their
>work here but they too got bored with all the gear talk and you very rarely
>see them anymore unfortunately.
>I too get extremely bored with all the talk about "gadgets" I wouldn't mind
>but most of this talk is never backed up with actual recording of nature
>sounds with it. I moderate this group for Doug and I can barley read the
>first lines of e-mails to honest with you.
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>I have tried and tested various mics for what you are talking about and
find
>I am extremely happy with them. Depending on what you want to do, I
>generally use my MKH series mics in the field and regularly set them up the
>night before. The dawn chorus as you rightly said is more intense around
the
>spring and early summer. I have also had some success using the great
little
>ECM-55 Sony mics tied to a tree using a cord wrapped around it clipping the
>mics on each side.
>Example http://tinyurl.com/98cxo
>Depending on where you are these mics are little gems for the price.
>By-the-way, where are you living and what private land?
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>Stick with it Dave, its better than watching reality TV :)
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>Martyn
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>Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
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>N47.65543 W121.98428
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>e-mail:
>Tel: 425-898-0462
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>From:
> On Behalf Of david briggs
>Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:14 AM
>To:
>Subject: [Nature Recordists] should we change the name of this group to
>geartalk
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>It was only recently that I resubscribed to this list. I have started
>camping in a private forest and thus have the opertunity to secord some of
>its inhabitants. The dawn chorus was amazing earlier this year and there
are
>all maner of wee beasties to record. I am interested in building some mic
>sheilds that would stand up to being mounted in trees and such. How do
other
>people cope with weather and planting mics ?
>
>I am getting a little bored with the discussion on this group of recording
>gear. I know it is essential stuff and quite specific to this style of
>recording but.... it dosent half get boring....isnt there another place for
>this constant talk about gear ?....
>
>Ide love to hear a bit more about recording itself .... subject matter ...
>new discoveries... locations...some recordings...
>rant over.
>
>thanks for reading.... I do appreciate alot of what on this group most of
>the time....
>
>dave
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>"Microphones are not ears,
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