>>>The late David Brower (Sierra Club/Earth Island Institute) put it
this way: We (in the US) represent 5% of the world's population, use
60% of the world's resources, and 1% of us utilize 90% of that.<<
That makes it worse then!!!
I'm just going to reach for my Prozac and ice now with a drop of humour :)
Zoloft gives me a headache ;)
Martyn
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Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
http://www.naturesound.org
Redmond. Washington. USA
N47.65543 W121.98428
e-mail:
Tel: 425-898-0462
Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
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-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Wild Sanctuary
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:57 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Ecuador
The late David Brower (Sierra Club/Earth Island Institute) put it
this way: We (in the US) represent 5% of the world's population, use
60% of the world's resources, and 1% of us utilize 90% of that.
BK
>I remember your report when you got back Bernie.
>I find it very hard at times to cope with the devastation we are doing to
>this planet from the Arctic Circle to the beautiful tropical forests all i=
n
>the name of greed and nothing else.
>Oil companies are the worst pillagers that's for sure, we have the
>technology to find some other way of cleaner more usable fuels but that
>doesn't line the pockets of the rich does it!!
>I have been working on a CD for an upcoming book on Birds of the Arctic
>refuge to be written by David Sibley and Kenn Kaufman, I am wondering too
>that what I recorded on the refuge will be lost forever. It honestly break=
s
>my heart...
>Who said good overcomes evil!! I don't see it I'm afraid and this country
>rams it down your throat everyday with the unnecessary usage of materials.
>What is it, occupy 7% of the planet and use 70% of its resources?
>
>It is criminal Bernie...
>
>Martyn
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>Martyn Stewart
>Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
>http://www.naturesound.org
>Redmond. Washington. USA
>N47.65543 W121.98428
>
>e-mail:
>Tel: 425-898-0462
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>Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
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>-----Original Message-----
>From:
> On Behalf Of Wild Sanctuary
>Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:06 AM
>To:
>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Ecuador
>
>Hi Martyn,
>
>Recorded last year in the Galapagos (where I finished a soundscape
>CD), and in and around the Rio Napo on the eastern side of the Andes.
>The latter was more disappointing because of habitat incursion
>(deforestation mostly oil drilling) and because so much of the
>dynamic equilibrium of the critter mix has been greatly compromised.
>So it is VERY difficult to find places where the biophonic indicators
>do not reveal themselves as seriously stressed. Last year I found
>none despite marching way off into the jungle alone. While recording
>is possible, the results are not convincing. Most obvious, the
>monkeys were gone (poached), as well as other four-legged critters
>for the same reason. And a pall of smoke lies over the canopy each
>morning as more and more forest is slashed and burned. Not a hopeful
>scenario. For those who wish more insight into the problem in
>Ecuador, read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins.
>
>Bernie Krause
>
>>Paul
>>
>>Where in Ecuador are you?
>>I have an assignment to record there next year......
>>
>>Martyn
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>>Martyn Stewart
>>Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
>>http://www.naturesound.org
>>Redmond. Washington. USA
>>N47.65543 W121.98428
>>
>>e-mail:
>>Tel: 425-898-0462
>>
>>Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:
>> On Behalf Of Paul Coopmans
>>Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> >To:
>>Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Ethics of Using Recordings on Wildlife
and
>>a bit about the tropics
>>
>>At 12:19 29-10-05 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>>Another note, how many people here are actually NATURE RECORDISTS?
>>>I see many posts of "what the latest recorder, microphone is" but how
many
>>>actually tell of their experiences in the field?
>>
>>
>>OK Martyn,
>>
>>Just a few words then about the field experiences. I've been tape
recording
>>bird sounds for nearly 20 years now, mainly in South America, but I've
also
>>done a bit in Africa and Australia.
>>
>>When faced with an unknown bird sound in tropical forests, playback is th=
e
>>best method to identify the source of the sound. In this way other people
> >and I have been able to get 'the first recording' of many species which
>>were previously poorly known, and thanks to learning the sound these
>>species have subsequently been found in other areas, improving our
>>knowledge about their distribution. Better distributional knowledge
>>translates into a better knowledge base on which to base conservation
>>decisions and strategies.
>>
>>You can not imagine the thrill of playing back an unknown sound and
>>suddenly being face to face with a mythical bird which until then was onl=
y
>>known from a few old specimens. With an increased knowledge on the bird
>>sounds (tape recording is an ideal way of learning) one can also more
>>quickly pick up anything odd. This is how in the early nineties I
>>discovered a new flycatcher in Ecuador, which we subsequently described a=
s
>>Foothill Elaenia.
>>
>>In the course of the past decade we have - thanks to John Moore who has
>>also been doing a lot of recording and who headed the project - been able
>>to publish a series of CD-sets on Ecuadorian bird sounds, an endeavor
which
>>was only possible thanks to many years in the field by the various
>>co-authors, many hours processing the recordings, and all of the above.
>>
>>Re. playback by birders, one has to use common sense. If all of a sudden
>>loads of ABA listers would flock down to the Ivory-billed Woodpecker area
>>in Arkansas and start playing tapes this could have a severe impact. If
>>instead you're talking about much smaller numbers of birders in a country
>>like Ecuador where - in spite of worrying degrees of deforestation - ther=
e
>>is still a lot of habitat to bird, people are usually so dispersed, doing
>>playback on different territorial birds, so that IMHO the impact on the
>>birds in negligeable. Yes there is the odd place where one territorial
bird
>>repeatedly gets exposed to tape, and what seems to happen is that, rather
>>than deserting its territory, the bird just becomes oblivious to the tape=
,
>>probably having learnt that there's nothing to worry about.
>>
>>It is also worth stating that many birds here are year-round territorial,
>>and that they regularly get exposed to young birds (or old ones driven ou=
t
>>of their territory by chainsaws) who are roaming around looking for a
>>territory, and as soon as one of these starts singing the territory owner
>>will come in to drive the intruder away. Many times I have watched
>>territorial conflicts, and occasional and non-exaggerated playback is
>>nothing more than yet another floating intruder having a go at
establishing
>>a territory.
>>
>>We're running a conservation foundation here, the Mindo Cloudforest
>>Foundation, and we have so far been able to establish two reserves in an
>>increasingly deforested area thanks to the generous donations received
from
>>some birders whom we've shown lots of birds, some of them with playback.
>>The birds are still there in spite of the playback, but the habitat in
>>which they live is now protected thanks to these birders.
>>
>>Cheers, Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Wild Sanctuary
P. O. Box 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
t. 707-996-6677
f. 707-996-0280
http://www.wildsanctuary.com
"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
Klas Strandberg
Yahoo! Groups Links
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