A good dose of humour helps, even better with ice! And you get it
without prescription.
However, the question is if relief ever can come from politicians. We
will see!
Volker
Wild Sanctuary schrieb:
> Not to worry, Volker. George Bush has promised us relief. I believe!
> I believe! Anyway, whenever I have doubts, I turn to a cocktail of
> Prozac and Zoloft. Add ice, shake well, and swallow in one gulp. Even
> when faced with an apocalypse of mediocrity, everything's coming up
> alfalfa sprouts.
>
> Bernie
>
> >Hi Bernie,
> >
> >this really makes me think once again.
> >How actually do you keep yourself from falling into a deep state of
> >depression.
> >Through your work you have been witness to so much destruction that you
> >can even prove with your recordings.
> >What can one small nature recordist do than to record what is still left=
?
> >
> >Slightly depressed
> >
> >Volker Widmann
> >
> >
> >Wild Sanctuary schrieb:
> >
> >> Hi Martyn,
> >>
> >> Recorded last year in the Galapagos (where I finished a soundscape
> >> CD), and in and around the Rio Napo on the eastern side of the Andes.
> >> The latter was more disappointing because of habitat incursion
> >> (deforestation mostly oil drilling) and because so much of the
> >> dynamic equilibrium of the critter mix has been greatly compromised.
> >> So it is VERY difficult to find places where the biophonic indicators
> >> do not reveal themselves as seriously stressed. Last year I found
> >> none despite marching way off into the jungle alone. While recording
> >> is possible, the results are not convincing. Most obvious, the
> >> monkeys were gone (poached), as well as other four-legged critters
> >> for the same reason. And a pall of smoke lies over the canopy each
> >> morning as more and more forest is slashed and burned. Not a hopeful
> >> scenario. For those who wish more insight into the problem in
> >> Ecuador, read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins.
> >>
> >> Bernie Krause
> >>
> >> >Paul
> >> >
> >> >Where in Ecuador are you?
> >> >I have an assignment to record there next year......
> >> >
> >> >Martyn
> >> >
> >> >****************************************
> >> >Martyn Stewart
> >> >Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
> >> >http://www.naturesound.org
> >> >Redmond. Washington. USA
> >> >N47.65543 W121.98428
> >> >
> >> >e-mail:
> >> >Tel: 425-898-0462
> >> >
> >> >Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
> >> >*****************************************
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From:
> >> > On Behalf Of Paul Coopmans
> >> >Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> >> >To:
> >> >Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Ethics of Using Recordings on
> >> Wildlife and
> >> >a bit about the tropics
> >> >
> >> >At 12:19 29-10-05 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Another note, how many people here are actually NATURE RECORDISTS?
> >> >>I see many posts of "what the latest recorder, microphone is" but
> >> how many
> >> >>actually tell of their experiences in the field?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >OK Martyn,
> >> >
> >> >Just a few words then about the field experiences. I've been tape
> >> recording
> >> >bird sounds for nearly 20 years now, mainly in South America, but
> >> I've also
> >> >done a bit in Africa and Australia.
> >> >
> >> >When faced with an unknown bird sound in tropical forests, playback
> >> is the
> >> >best method to identify the source of the sound. In this way
> other people
> >> >and I have been able to get 'the first recording' of many species
> which
> >> >were previously poorly known, and thanks to learning the sound these
> >> >species have subsequently been found in other areas, improving our
> >> >knowledge about their distribution. Better distributional knowledge
> > > >translates into a better knowledge base on which to base
> conservation
> >> >decisions and strategies.
> >> >
> >> >You can not imagine the thrill of playing back an unknown sound and
> >> >suddenly being face to face with a mythical bird which until then wa=
s
> >> only
> >> >known from a few old specimens. With an increased knowledge on
> the bird
> >> >sounds (tape recording is an ideal way of learning) one can also mor=
e
> >> >quickly pick up anything odd. This is how in the early nineties I
> >> >discovered a new flycatcher in Ecuador, which we subsequently
> >> described as
> > > >Foothill Elaenia.
> >> >
> >> >In the course of the past decade we have - thanks to John Moore
> who has
> >> >also been doing a lot of recording and who headed the project -
> been able
> >> >to publish a series of CD-sets on Ecuadorian bird sounds, an endeavo=
r
> >> which
> >> >was only possible thanks to many years in the field by the various
> >> >co-authors, many hours processing the recordings, and all of the
> above.
> >> >
> >> >Re. playback by birders, one has to use common sense. If all of a
> sudden
> >> >loads of ABA listers would flock down to the Ivory-billed
> Woodpecker area
> >> >in Arkansas and start playing tapes this could have a severe
> impact. If
> >> >instead you're talking about much smaller numbers of birders in a
> country
> >> >like Ecuador where - in spite of worrying degrees of deforestation -
> >> there
> >> >is still a lot of habitat to bird, people are usually so
> dispersed, doing
> >> >playback on different territorial birds, so that IMHO the impact
> on the
> >> >birds in negligeable. Yes there is the odd place where one
> >> territorial bird
> >> >repeatedly gets exposed to tape, and what seems to happen is
> that, rather
> >> >than deserting its territory, the bird just becomes oblivious to the
> >> tape,
> >> >probably having learnt that there's nothing to worry about.
> >> >
> >> >It is also worth stating that many birds here are year-round
> territorial,
> >> >and that they regularly get exposed to young birds (or old ones
> >> driven out
> >> >of their territory by chainsaws) who are roaming around looking for =
a
> >> >territory, and as soon as one of these starts singing the
> territory owner
> >> >will come in to drive the intruder away. Many times I have watched
> >> >territorial conflicts, and occasional and non-exaggerated playback i=
s
> >> >nothing more than yet another floating intruder having a go at
> >> establishing
> >> >a territory.
> >> >
> >> >We're running a conservation foundation here, the Mindo Cloudforest
> >> >Foundation, and we have so far been able to establish two
> reserves in an
> >> >increasingly deforested area thanks to the generous donations
> >> received from
> >> >some birders whom we've shown lots of birds, some of them with
> playback.
> >> >The birds are still there in spite of the playback, but the
> habitat in
> >> >which they live is now protected thanks to these birders.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers, Paul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> >A listening room is not nature."
> >> >Klas Strandberg
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Microphones are not ears,
> >> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> >A listening room is not nature."
> >> >Klas Strandberg
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wild Sanctuary
> >> P. O. Box 536
> >> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> >> t. 707-996-6677
> >> f. 707-996-0280
> >> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Microphones are not ears,
> >> Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >> A listening room is not nature."
> >> Klas Strandberg
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >"Microphones are not ears,
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> >Klas Strandberg
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