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Re: Format of WAV files

Subject: Re: Format of WAV files
From: "nbioacoustics" <>
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 03:30:02 -0000
Thanks Ed, I'll keep fiddling with it in Matlab then :)


--- In  Ed Anson <> wrote:
> Natalie,
>
> I have never used Matlab, so I'm just guessing. But it seems reasonable
> that the two columns would be left and right channel amplitude values.
> I don't suppose there is any single "right" way to analyze it. You
> could analyze each channel separately, or add them together to get a
> mono signal. Or both.
>
> As for Audacity, it is intended for editing sound, not for analysis.
> AFAIK it has no way to save the file as anything but audio. It sounds
> like Matlab is the tool you want.
>
> Ed
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 6:21 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
>
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> >  Ok, so now that I know I can import WAV files into Matlab (which I
> >  did), I'm having trouble figuring out what the 2 columns of data are.
> >  Are they both amplitude, 1 column for each headphone (L and R)? I
> >  think so.
> >
> >  If so, then is there any 'right' way to combine them to get the TOTAL
> >  signal?
> >
> >  Also, in Audacity, is there a way that I can't find that will
allow me
> >  to save the Spectrum as a file, instead of saving the amplitude data
> >  like the WAV does? or do I have to save WAV and then FFT to get
> >  spectrum file myself in Matlab?
> >
> >  Thanks, Natalie :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- In  Ed Anson <>
> > wrote:
> >  > Tim made some good suggestions. Raven is a high end (i.e.,
> > expensive)
> >  > program but it could be what you need. Like Audacity, you can
> > download
> >  > it for free, but unlike Audacity all you get is a trial program
> > that is
> >  > partially crippled until you pay for it. But (depending on your
> > needs)
> >  > Audacity might do the job for free.
> >  >
> >  > When testing your stereo recording, the most important thing is to
> > be
> >  > sure you hear yourself in the right location. That is, be sure the
> >  > stereo imaging is correct. It's very easy to get the figure 8 mic
> >  > rotated wrong so that the stereo image is reversed or even worse.
> >  >
> >  > But it's also important that the sound is properly balanced. As Tim
> >  > mentioned, the gain range could be an issue. You might also
want to
> > run
> >  > the Balance Calibration menu item (#75). This helps make sure that
> > the
> >  > 12 o'clock position on the bottom knob really sets the proper
> > balance
> >  > between the channels. If it is not balanced properly, you could get
> >  > uneven results.
> >  >
> >  > You might want to consider whether this group might want to hear
> > some
> >  > of your recordings. Even though they will be primarily for
> > scientific
> >  > research, portions may still have broader appeal. Who knows? Some
> > of us
> >  > might even be interested in your research! What are you up to,
> > anyway?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Oct 1, 2005, at 9:33 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > Thanks Ed. Great! I'll try that, thanks Ed. I feel bad because I
> > feel
> >  > >  like I'm sucking information out of you guys and not giving
any,
> > but
> >  > >  I'm so new to this that I have nothing to contribute yet...I
> > hope to
> >  > >  one day!
> >  > >
> >  > >  Another question: when I listen to a recording of myself walking
> >  > >  around my mics (a cardioid piggbacked on top of a figure 8), I
> > notice
> >  > >  that my humming is louder when I'm on the sides than when i'm
> >  directly
> >  > >  in front of the mics (even distance in all locations), which
> > makes me
> >  > >  wonder if there's something unequal about my mics... They are
> >  lined up
> >  > >  with the capsules equal. One is a MKH 30 and the other a 40.
Any
> > idea
> >  > >  of why this might be?
> >  > >
> >  > >  --- In  Ed Anson <>
> >  > > wrote:
> >  > >  > What you want is a spectrograph. There are several products
> >  > > available
> >  > >  > than can provide that for you. They vary widely in quality and
> >  > > cost. I
> >  > >  > would suggest you try two things:
> >  > >  > 1. Check out Audacity. It is a free downloadable editor that
> > can
> >  > >  > produce a spectrogram.
> >  > >  > 2. If that doesn't meet your needs, just Google spectrograph
> >  and you
> >  > >  > will find a number of alternatives.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > On Oct 1, 2005, at 9:16 PM, nbioacoustics wrote:
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > > So now that I can record from MS to stereo, how can I look
> > at my
> >  > >  > >  'data' as a graph showing Frequency as a function of Time?
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