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Re: lower noise/cost omnis (was mic check

Subject: Re: lower noise/cost omnis (was mic check
From: Rob Danielson <>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:36:01 -0500
Nice addition. 4 oz. and 5.5" long. Thanks! Rob D.

  =3D =3D =3D

At 5:13 PM -0700 8/30/05, Eric Benjamin wrote:
>Rob,
>
>I have another addition:
>
>Audio Technica AT3032   16 dBA    19.9 mV/Pa
>
>It's notable in being lower noise than any of the
>other low-cost microphones (excepting the
>large-diaphragm types), and is available for about
>$170 on line.  I haven't used it though.
>
>Eric
>
>--- Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Curt. That is a very sweet deal on the 183's.
>>
>>  I've been trying to figure out a way to do some
>>  extensive testing.
>>  When you consider that people have been paying $900
>>  for the DPA
>>  4060's and then  $1400+ a pair for the next tier,
>>  looking at the
>>  specs, its reasonable to think that something in the
>>  $`120-$500 range
>>  _could_ be useful to own. Many things one can do
>>  with omnis like the
>>  boundary, jecklin, binaural and wide spaced pairs.
>>  The list of lower
>>  noise/cost cardioids is even longer.
>>
>>  Heres the list of Omni  potential contenders I've
>>  assembled.
>>
>>  Behringer   B-2     16 dB(A)        19mV/Pa
>>  Behringer   B-2 Pro 17 dB(A)        16 mV/Pa
>>  Behringer   B-5     16 dB(A)        12.5 mV/Pa
>>  Octava MK-012*      18 dB(A)        10 mV/Pa
>>  Rode NT2-A* 7 dB(A) 16 mV/Pa
>>  Rode NT5            16 dB(A)        12 mV/Pa
>>  Studio ProjectsC4   16 dB(A)        12 mV/Pa
>>  CAD M-179*  11 dB(A)        16 mV/Pa
>>
>>  * there's decent info about these available, but
>>  useful to include
>>  for comparison.
>>
>>  Here are SOME of the more expensive ones with specs
>>  for reference
>>  AKG_C480B/CK-62     13dB(A) 20 mV/Pa
>>  DPA 4060    23 dB(A)        20 mV/Pa                .
>>  DSM-1S              29 dB(A)         ?
>>  MBHO 603a100DK      14 dB(A)        12 mV/Pa
>>  M Gefell    M 296   14 dB(A)        15 mV/Pa
>>  Neumann     KM 183  16 dB(A)        12 mV/Pa
>>  SchoepsMK2/CMC6     14 dB(A)        15 mV/Pa
>>  Senn ME62   17 dB(A)        20 mV/Pa
>>  Senn MKH 20 10 dB(A)        25 mV/Pa
>>  Telinga     EM-23   14 dB(A)        ~10mV/Pa
>>
>>  Other omnis people know of <$500 a pair (new) with
>>  no more than
>>  20dB(A) self noise?
>>  Rob D.
>>
>>  At 12:11 AM -0500 8/30/05, Curt Olson wrote:
>>  >Mark Griswald wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  I'm looking for a mic to use in a cube array.
>>  The 183s don't have the
>>  >>  same "bang for the buck" after their recent
>>  price increase, so I was
>>  >>  looking for other mics to consider. Price is an
>>  issue (since I would
>>  >>  need four of them) as is physical size (to fit
>>  inside the cube).
>>  >
>>  >Mark, have you checked out Sweetwater?
>>  >
>>  >http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/WL183/
>>  >
>>  >Rob Danielson wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  And in the $100-$250 a pair range, the small
>>  condenser omnis made by
>>  >>  Octava, Samson, Behringer or Nady could test out
>>  to your expectations
>>  >>  in this application. Only tests will tell.
>>  >
>>  >Interesting you should mention this, Rob. I've been
>>  wondering about the
>>  >Samson C02s lately -- $120.00 for a pair. Roughly
>>  similar size, shape
>>  >and *published* specs to the wonderful Neumann
>>  KM184, which is more
>>  >than 20x the price. There are specs and then there
>>  are specs, of
>>  >course, but for that price, Samson definitely has
>>  me curious. Has
>>  >anyone here tried the C02s?
>>  >
>>  >Curt Olson
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >"Microphones are not ears,
>>  >Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>  >A listening room is not nature."
>>  >Klas Strandberg
>>  >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  Rob Danielson
>>  Film Department
>>  University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>>
>>
>>  "Microphones are not ears,
>>  Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>  A listening room is not nature."
>>  Klas Strandberg
>>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>>=A0
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Rob Danielson
Film Department
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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