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Re: Noiseless Aircraft/Quiet power

Subject: Re: Noiseless Aircraft/Quiet power
From: Wild Sanctuary <>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:46:25 -0700
Like I say, Rob, one can only hope that you're right. I certainly do
as reflected in all my work.

BK

>Hope things are already seeming brighter, Bernie. I bet they are.
>
>The only experiences we trust happen within "pockets,"  so, people
>will work much  harder to fix problems close to home.  Because it
>takes less effort to "accept" views of vague power, doesn't mean
>there isn't a huge amount of human desire and energy waiting to be
>tapped. The worse thing a developer can ever face is one grandma on a
>mission. It is about power, but its about pleasure too.  Recordists
>have a pretty good grip on the respectful end of the big stick and a
>lot more to share than pessimism.  Rob D.
>
>   =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
>
>At 9:30 AM -0700 8/18/05, Wild Sanctuary wrote:
>>Pockets, yes, Rob. But, I'm afraid they're all to few, these days,
>>and much to cowed by the assault on the kinds of sensibilities we all
>>need to pay some close attention to for our health, mental and
>>physical. As the late Claire Booth Luce once said at a lecture when I
>>asked her why she was such a pessimist. Her answer: "The only
>>difference, my dear, between an optimist and a pessimist, is that a
>>pessimist has more experience."
>>
>>While I'm ever-hopeful, I am not terribly optimistic.
>>
>>Bernie
>>
>>
>>
>>>At 6:18 AM -0700 8/18/05, Brian Dasilva wrote:
>>>>Yuba Pass is that way... A lot of motorcycles but by far the
>>>>Harleys are the
>>>>worst... Only thing on the road that is "allowed" (?)  to run with stra=
ight
>>>>pipes. They will never ban Harleys as there are a lot more hog riders t=
han
>>>>nature recorders.
>>>
>>>Hi Brian--
>>>Pragmatically, don't you think there are far more people who enjoy
>>>quiet than people who will argue the "right" to make "personal"
>>>disturbances on this scale?  Getting the former group to speak up is
>>>the key. There could be places designated for straight-pipe riding
>>>and most would see this as reasonable and economically sound. Michael
>>>Powers is his book , The Economic Pursuit of Quality, argues that the
>>>move to the suburbs in the US was largely motivated by green values
>>>and "quiet" is on top of the list. I raised the possibility of
>>>restricting motorcycle and truck traffic during certain blocks of
>>>time at a recent workshop at the Kickapoo Valley Reserve preserve and
>>>people felt it was a very doable with education efforts in place. We
>>>know that "they" can make good policies when more options are laid
>>>out--- like this region's decision to keep a smaller two lane highway
>>>instead of widening the road and the quieter highways you're
>>>enjoying. Rob D.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>>A listening room is not nature."
>>>Klas Strandberg
>>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Wild Sanctuary
>>P. O. Box 536
>>Glen Ellen, CA 95442
>>t. 707-996-6677
>>f. 707-996-0280
>>http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>>
>>
>>
>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Rob Danielson
>Film Department
>University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Wild Sanctuary
P. O. Box 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
t. 707-996-6677
f. 707-996-0280
http://www.wildsanctuary.com


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