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Re: Edmund Parabolic Reflectors

Subject: Re: Edmund Parabolic Reflectors
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 02:50:49 -0000
Having great respect for Randy, and having the full "proud owner 
bias" from knowing that the dish I use did take into full 
consideration his work as well as his words. Not to mention being 
biased in favor of the sound from this described configuration. I 
comment.

I can take my 32" dish with its focus just outside of the rim and cut 
the outside edge section off to make a 10" dish.  The dish will still 
be a parabolic, will still have the same focus distance, and will be 
less deep. It would then be a design option to use an external baffle 
to reduce the side heard sound which is always an option anyway. I 
don't because I use the side sound in the stereo image. 

So depth, diameter, and focal point are all inter-related yet each 
variable.

Rich Peet  

--- In  Gregory Kunkel 
<> wrote:
> Here is a quote from a paper previously mentioned in this forum:
> 
> ACOUSTIC PROPERTIES OF PARABOLIC REFLECTORS
> Randolph Scott Little
> Laboratory of Ornithology
> Cornell University
> Ithaca, New York*
> 
> "In order to avoid deep cavity resonances, as indicated by the 200 
Hz
> peak, the microphone should lie outside the plane of the edge of the
> reflector.  On the other hand, in order to suppress sounds coming
> from directions behind the reflector, the microphone should be well
> inside the rim.  A suitable compromise is to place the microphone at
> the plane of the rim.  This means that the focal length must be
> one-quarter of the diameter in order to satisfy the formula for a
> parabolic curve."
> 
>             Greg Kunkel
> --- Dave J <> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > 
> > > That being said, the Edmund dishes are in fact as 
> > > deep as their focal length, and my 24" diameter 
> > > dish measures 6" deep.  It seems to me that there
> > > was some discussion here or on a related list
> > > about the Telinga dishes being deeper than their 
> > > focal length, and that's important for sound 
> > > reflectors more so than for optical reflectors.
> > > 
> > > -- Mike
> > 
> > I do wonder if the edge of the dish would be a source 
> > of wind noise, and if the mic might be wind-shielded if 
> > lower, but I would think that gain might be optimized
> > if the mic was higher -- but then I guess this would 
> > depend on the shape of the mic element and its pattern...
> >  
> > 
> > 
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