> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:22:52 -0500
> From: Walter Knapp <>
> Subject: Re: Databasing & cataloguing
>
> From: Geoff Sample <>
>
>> The whole system is in a transitional stage, since the database is not f=
ully
>> developed yet (but working now). And the tape stage will disappear next =
year
>> (which currently provides for first level storage and archiving). I know
>> there are weaknesses in here, but I figure that having all the notes in =
a
>> database form allows for future flexibility and improving efficiency. It=
's
>> also essential to stop me wasting time by keeping check on just how many
>> versions of the Chaffinch's rain call I've got and their geographic
>> provenance.
>
> This last is the very reason I got a PDA and Filemaker Mobile. In my
> shirt pocket is my database, so when I hear something calling I can
> check if it's new for the area or if I found it in that area years ago.
> Too much stuff to remember, even if I'm pretty good at that sort of
> thing. So, my large database gets selected fields loaded into my Palm
> for such use.
Isn't it one of the essential skills of a naturerecordist? To carry around
in your head a rough database of your whole library. It's just a weakness i=
n
our human design that there's a cerebral limit :-)
Geoff
Geoff Sample
Wildsong Studios
Northumberland, UK
http://www.wildsong.co.uk
This month's feature on common frogs:
http://www.wildsong.co.uk/monthly_feature.html
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'That land is a community is the basic concept of ecology, but that land is
to be loved and respected is an extension of ethics .... We abuse land
because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a
community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.=
'
Aldo Leopold
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>From Tue Mar 8 18:26:25 2005
Message: 10
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 03:07:50 -0700
From: "Barb Beck" <>
Subject: RE: Re: Homemade parabola UPDATE
Would a big Roche parabola work better than the smaller Telinga for what he
needs. He needs to get max amplitude from the bird relative to the high
background noise. I know that my Roche setup would really amplify a bird
when it was dead in the sights - a relatively small area. I have a much
"fuzzier" area where the recordings are good with the Telinga setup but tha=
t
is with the Telinga mic and parabola. Big disadvantage there is that my
Roche was opaque and I usually could not see the bird while recording. Jim
is always my spotter - of course we have some arguments recorded on tape.
I realize that the lower frequencies will be picked up a little more but
then the bird is also amplified relatively more - at least I think it is.
Barb Beck
Edmonton
-----Original Message-----
From: hydronium88
Sent: April 1, 2004 11:54 PM
To:
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Homemade parabola UPDATE
Thanks everyone for the quick replies. I actually have an ME62 and K6
as well so I'll play with some different combinations of mikes and
parabolas. Feel free to keep sending advice!
Lucas Habib
University of Alberta
--- In umashankar <>
wrote:
> i keep seeing these references to a clear telinga
> dish, but i do not seem to be able to buy it. telinga
> itself does not offer me the dish alone. i do not want
> to buy their mikes and electronics at this time (for
> one thing i cannot afford it) but at 75 dollars i can
> buy just the dish. but how do i buy it?
>
> umashankar
> --- Rich Peet <> wrote:
> > You may not like it but, The 67 is not great in a
> > parabola.
> > I recommend that you get the 62 capsule to use with
> > your dish.
> > I started with a 67 and moved to a 62 and a dish.
> > then another 62 and
> > k6 and then ......
> >
> > Look at Walts site for the construction of a handle
> > for a dish. A
> > clear Telinga dish will be around 75.US. Or you can
> > go with Aluminum
> > for 50 or an Umbrella for 10.
> >
> > You will find that the 67 is a great tool but should
> > be separate from
> > a parabola it has a different use. If you want to
> > dump the 67 after
> > trying out the dish, the going price is about 75% of
> > current new
> > which would pay for the 62 element which is cheaper.
> > That assumes
> > that you didn't scratch it up.
> >
> > My 2 cents.,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > --- In
> > "hydronium88" <>
> > wrote:
> > > Sorry all for the double posting, but I was told I
> > should be more
> > > specific in my requests:
> > >
> > > I am a MSc student at the University of Alberta in
> > Edmonton, AB,
> > > Canada. I am VERY new to bird work. For my
> > thesis I am exploring
> > the
> > > effects of chronic background noise from
> > industrial developments on
> > > birds in the boreal forest. I am looking at a few
> > possible effects
> > of
> > > noise on birds, including increased stress,
> > decreased abundance, and
> > > alterations in song. This latter part is what I'm
> > looking for help
> > > on. Last summer an article was published in
> > Nature by Slabbekoorn
> > and
> > > Peet, who found that great tits in urban
> > environments have a higher
> > > minimum frequency of their song than rural ones.
> > I will be looking
> > > for a similar effect near industrial
> > installations.
> > >
> > > I have two major questions that I would appreciate
> > advice on:
> > > 1) For my recordings, I will be using a Sennheiser
> > ME67. Of course,
> > > the nature of my study means that I will be
> > working in areas with
> > lots
> > > of background noise so I'd really like to be able
> > to isolate a song
> > > for a recording without too much background
> > interference. I would
> > > like to make a parabola for it but after much
> > searching haven't had
> > > much luck finding a how-to page or info on it in
> > this list. Can any
> > > one give me some advice or point me to such a
> > page?
> > >
> > > 2) I need some type of recorder that will provide
> > high-quality
> > > recordings that I can later analyze on a PC. I
> > will be lugging it
> > > around in the field so size is also an issue. And
> > of course, I'm
> > on a
> > > limited budget. If anyone has any suggestions for
> > what I should be
> > > using, please let me know. I know that this is a
> > very contentious
> > > topic!
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Lucas Habib
> > > University of Alberta
> >
> >
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