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Re: Digest Number 1196

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1196
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:26:16 -0000
I am glad it worked out this way for you.
I agree that it was worth the effort.

--- In  Walter Knapp <> 
wrote:
> >    From: "Rich Peet" <>
> > Subject: Re: Walt's Frogs CD
> > 
> > 
> >>> The rather restricted method of sales has to do with what a 
> > 
> > individual
> > 
> >>> state agency can do here. Other methods were available, but 
would 
> > 
> > have
> > 
> >>> put the money in the state general fund, not back where it will 
> > 
> > help the
> > 
> >>> non-game research program. Even the CD's going to state parks 
will 
> > 
> > only
> > 
> >>> return them the wholesale part.
> > 
> > 
> > For those of us to follow. Do you agree a specific designation to 
use 
> > of funds is needed by the recordist?  Would you do it again 
without 
> > having control of where all funds went?  
> 
> I trust those involved in this project to do their best to keep the 
> funds in the non-game work. These are folks I know very well and 
they 
> too were very determined that it fund the program.
> 
> I'd do it again, it is a important thing to me that it contributes 
to 
> the program. It would do that even if it did not return a dime. 
It's 
> educational benefit is very high. One of my particular personality 
> quirks is to teach. I'm teaching in doing this. I get tremendous 
> satisfaction from every note I get thanking me for providing info 
on 
> frogs either via the CD or my website. Many of those are from 
teachers.
> 
> Each recordist has to make their own decision as to how their 
recordings 
> are used. I do not believe just money is involved. You have to be 
> comfortable with the arrangements, usually once they are made it's 
hard 
> to change them.
> 
> > And the hard question. Do you regret not having a % return for 
the 
> > recordist.
> 
> No, I don't regret that. I might could have asked for one, but it 
was 
> not of high importance for me. I did think carefully about that. 
> Remember, I'd just completed 5 years as a volunteer herp survey 
> participant. All my life I've participated in various volunteer 
> activities, also part of my nature. In a lot of ways the CD was 
just a 
> continuation of the herp survey effort. The majority of the 
recorded 
> material came out of recordings I'd done for the survey. It's part 
of a 
> larger picture that will produce considerable material for 
distribution 
> out of what was learned in the survey (and since).
> 
> For those who think they can make some money at this, that CD sold 
the 
> first run of 1000 in a month. And that was off season. I'm really 
> curious to see how well it does this next year when the frogs are 
> calling. The flip side of that as far as making money is the 
material on 
> that CD took 7 years of intensive effort to gather. Many, many 
miles on 
> my vehicles, motel bills, food etc. To say nothing of equipment. 
I'm 
> really glad I'm not trying to make a profit.
> 
> I do have some ideas for a more elaborate production along the 
lines of 
> a multimedia DVD. It will take some time to gather the material for 
> that. Don't know if DNR will be interested or if I'll do that one 
on my own.
> 
> In final analysis my nature recording is a retirement hobby that's 
a 
> outgrowth of my field biology. I do not look at it as something 
that 
> will make me rich. You can really spoil a enjoyable hobby when you 
try 
> to make a profit off it.
> 
> Walt
> 



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