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Re: Cassowary calls may be lowest bird calls

Subject: Re: Cassowary calls may be lowest bird calls
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 22:25:56 -0000
Thanks Bernie.
Of course I am disappointed.
I would have liked to have determined that I found a viable recording
package for recording infrasound for under $500.00.

I wish I could find a source of accurate infrasound to use as a check
but all the freq generators I know of don't go there.  I guess my
next stop should be the zoo to visit elephants.

Rich Peet

--- In  Wild Sanctuary <>
wrote:
> In checking out the ruffed grouse signal, Rich, two things seem to
> happen depending on the software one uses. If I use a HAM weighted
> low pass filter setting, I certainly get a reading (probably
> artifact) from the signal showing it almost down to zero. I doubt
> it's THAT low. The wingbeats generate lots of pulsed air and,
> depending on the habitat and input transducer, there can be
> distortion and other acoustic anomalies introduced. If, on the
other
> hand, I look at the signal with the GWI system, I don't get much if
> any signal below 28.5Hz. That sounds more real to me and I would
tend
> to trust that analysis as being closer to what's actually
happening,
> if indeed, it's that low.
>
> Bernie Krause
>
> >64kb spectral display:
> >http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/grouse.jpg
> >
> >200 kb wave at:
> >http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/0298.wav
> >
> >Thanks, I really have these questions because I am not in the audio
> >business and am not an expert. I just do what I do.
> >
> >Rich Peet
> >
> >--- In  Wild Sanctuary
<>
> >wrote:
> >>  Send a short .wav file, Rich, and I'll check it out, here, on
the
> >GWI
> >>  system. Sometimes recordings create an artifact that looks like
a
> >>  sub-harmonic but is really a "ghost" signal created by wierd
sums
> >and
> >>  differences.
> >>
> >>  Bernie Krause
> >>
> >>  Wild Sanctuary, Inc.
> >>  P. O. Box 536
> >>  Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> >>  707-996-6677 tel
> >>  707-996-0280 fax
> >>  http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> >>
> >>  >They speak of calls of 18 hz.  I asked and didn't get a
response on
> >>  >if the grouse I recorded with a signature to 1/2 hz was
accurate.
> >>  >I have now asked Adobe if the spectral display is correct.
> >>  >Maybe they (wcs.org) are speaking of voice calls at 18 hz but
if
> >so I
> >>  >don't understand the body mechanics of that. The lowest I have
in
> >>  >voice recorded to date is the Great Gray Owl.
> >>  >
> >>  >Rich Peet
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >--- In  Doug Von Gausig
> ><>
> >>  >wrote:
> >>  >>  See http://wcs.org/7411/?art=3D110481374. Some dinosaur folks
are
> >>  >thinking
> >>  >>  that the subsonic calls of the Cassowary may be very
similar and
> >>  >>  pleisiomorphic to the calls that Dinosaurs used to
> >communicate...
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Doug
> >>  >>  Doug Von Gausig
> >>  >>  Clarkdale, Arizona, USA
> >>  >>  Moderator
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