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Re: Binaural setup

Subject: Re: Binaural setup
From: Walter Knapp <>
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:40:36 -0400
> From: Dan Dugan <>
> 
> 
>>>I have been using 2 spaced omnis (2xSennheiser 110
>>>mics approx. the distance of human ears) with a baffle
>>>board between.  This is what I have known as binaural.
>>>  If this is the pattern recieved by the DSM mic setup
>>>why is it not binaural?
>>>Tony Baylis.

The Jecklin Disk is two omni's spaced 8.25cm apart with a 28 cm baffle 
between (in it's original form). Not the same thing as binaural, 
generally classed as near coincident spacing. Sounds like what's being 
described here even if the dimensions are a little different.

> Quasi-biaural, in my book. To be really binaural you need to record 
> in a real or simualted ear canal with pinnas. But all the 
> quasi-binaural systems (disk, sphere, eyeglass clips, mikes on 
> headphones) provide most of the realism of binaural when heard on 
> headphones, and better frequency response when reproduced on speakers.

I'm not sure I understand the better frequency response. Certainly some 
of the quasi-binaural systems do better on speakers than true binaural, 
but I'm not sure that it's due to frequency response, which is a 
function mostly of the mic capsules used and so on. That would seem to 
be a issue somewhat independent of mic arrangement.

In a true binaural signal each channel contains only what each ear 
should hear to form the true soundfield. When binaural is listened to 
with speakers you get mixing of the signals (crosstalk to use the term 
used in the New Stereo Soundbook). Each ear is hearing some of the 
signal intended for the other ear. This damages the image that binaural 
is trying to create. But, such mixing is pretty much all frequencies.

BTW, binaural can be listened to with full effect with speakers. Place a 
acoustic barrier between the speakers that extends all the way to the 
listener to prevent crosstalk. Stick your nose on the barrier and enjoy.

It's possible you mean better frequency response in the sense that the 
tiny mics used in the ear canals can be outperformed by larger mics in 
the quasi-binaural positions? That does make sense.

> I record with omnis on shoulder pads; kind of a stretched 
> quasi-binaural system, not exactly "spaced omnis," since my neck is 
> in between.

I don't know where everybody get's such quiet bodies. Mine is always 
ambushing me with some gurgle or something at the wrong moment. And 
that's with mics that are not mounted on me. I'd think it would get 
tougher with mics mounted on you.

I do understand that the shoulder pads provide some isolation. But I 
have times all I can do is put the SASS on a tripod and move my noisy 
body away.

Walt




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