Sorry people, I didn't mean to start up WW3 with my comments about
the 'perfect recorder!
Methinks, there must be something to having the ability to hear with
two ears - if one is lucky enough to have kept them both on.
If you've got a big head, like mine, there is probably a lot of
difference between what the right and left ear hears, especially in
a pub!
I don't know if that difference is referred to as a phase
difference, or some other kind of acoustic difference, but I would
like to know how to describe it, and would be interested to hear -
oops - from someone who knows.
I'm currently working on setting up a website so that I can post
some of my backyard 'in the field' recordings. I feel they are duds
but given the conversation over the past few days, I can see that a
bit of ambience is allowed.
I'm having trouble setting up my URL - my ISP hit a brick wall this
past week with overload, or spam, or virus, or something that went
wrong. The ISP people told me to wait 24 hours and try again. (The
didn't say: Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.)
I went to the Links section of the Group site this week and got to
listen to Syd Curtis's Lyrebird symphony. Magic stuff. I've even
played the lute Lyrebird selection to a couple of patients during
consultations!! This appeared to work better than aspirin!
That new mike pre-amp with the jam-in-easily-replacebable 9V battery
sounds like a nice bit of gear. Watching what has been talked about
on this list, I guess the 'holy grail' is to go to field proof high-
bit solid state internally noiseless recording device , with the
input transducer and output transducer being the only flaws in the
system for 'perfect' reproduction?
Oh, no WW4...
Greg ;)
Went to work today...in Alice Springs, NT, Oztralia
PS: They tell me 'Dubya' is in Canberra, but there was nothing that
the PMD222 and the AT-815b were able to pick from this distance.
--- In Klas Strandberg
<> wrote:
> No, I don't even know if I still have it. It wasn't very nice, as
such, but
> illustrated the two approaches.
>
> You don't have to do this, it's enough to imagine:
>
> Imagine a noisy pub or restaurant, where lots of people are
talking. Imagine
> a stereo recording.
> Imagine that you listen to it, both stereo and mono. In stereo you
will hear
> something of what people say, where the bar is, where the sounds
from the
> kitchen come. Listening only to one channel, it will all turn into
a mess,
> which will be defined as "noise".
>
> There is nothing wrong with mono, that's not what I'm saying. But
mono is
> different, and I think it is wise to think a bit on what "noise"
is, and is not.
>
> A friend of mine asked me to clean some of his stereo recordings,
if
> possible. You could hear dogs bark and people in the background. I
agree
> that most people would classify it as a "noisy" recording made by
a "bad"
> recordist. Personally, I think it was wonderful. It was so spacy,
> illustrative, and also telling that this bird had it's habitat
near a village.
>
> Klas.
>
>
>
> At 01:01 2003-10-23 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is the Robin posted for listening somewhere?
> >Tony Baylis
> >--- Klas Strandberg <> wrote:
> >> In 1982 I made an experiment:
> >>
> >> I recorded a Redwing in AB stereo:
> >> In the background you could easily hear traffic
> >> sounds from the city and
> >> airplanes from the airport.
> >>
> >> When people were presented the recording in stereo,
> >> with headphones, they
> >> all looked happy, smiling, saying things like "it is
> >> so natural, how can you
> >> do this?"
> >> Nobody commented the traffic sounds.
> >>
> >> When presented the recording in mono (one of the
> >> omnis) people didn't look
> >> as happy, no smile, but they said things like "it is
> >> very good quality".
> >>
> >> When the recording was low frequency filtered, they
> >> all said things like "it
> >> is a pity that one can hear so much traffic noise.
> >>
> >> So, in mono, when filtered, people took more notice
> >> of the traffic. I
> >> concluded that mono doesn't trigger the "brain
> >> filters" good enough,
> >> especially not when you have manipulated the mono
> >> sound.
> >>
> >> In 1995, I made a stereo recording (Telinga PRO5 +
> >> stere DATmic) of a Robin
> >> sitting on a car antenna at Trafalgar Square, in the
> >> middle of London
> >> afternoon traffic.
> >> That is not a recording of a Robin, and should not
> >> be judged as a "very
> >> noisy recording of a Robin." It is a recording of "a
> >> Robin at Trafalgar
> >> Square traffic jam," and the traffic sounds are not
> >> noise, but part of the
> >> recording.
> >>
> >> Klas.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 00:57 2003-10-22 -0000, you wrote:
> >> >--- In Walter
> >> Knapp <>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> I would love to have a sound filter for my
> >> recordings as capable
> >> >as our
> >> >> brains at ignoring unwanted sound. It's not only
> >> a revelation how
> >> >much
> >> >> more we start to hear when getting into
> >> recording, but also a bane.
> >> >
> >> >At present my field is my backyard, and even inside
> >> the house I hear
> >> >calls all day long. Since beginning recording my
> >> ears are now
> >> >acutely tuned to the activity outside.
> >> >
> >> >It's spring here and the trees are full of
> >> birdsong. It's getting
> >> >such that I wish I had a brain filter to block
> >> birdcalls. Every
> >> >time I hear a perfect full length paragraph of
> >> song, with all the
> >> >sentences the birds utter separately included in
> >> it, I get a feeling
> >> >of disappointment. The reason being that I haven't
> >> yet managed to
> >> >make the perfect recording of the perfect
> >> paragraph!!
> >> >
> >> >On the subject of 'the perfect recorder' I just had
> >> a look at the
> >> >HHb Website in the UK. The picture of the MDP500
> >> Portadisc has 695
> >> >UKPounds beside it. This is about $1700
> >> Australian, which would
> >> >seem to compare well to the price of the Sony 'top
> >> of the range
> >> >NetMD' which is near $800, in the stores in
> >> downtown Alice Springs.
> >> >
> >> >Greg
> >> >
> >> >Having a morning off, at home in Alice Springs,
> >> Northern Territory,
> >> >Australia
> >> >
> >> >
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