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Re: Latest Security Pack

Subject: Re: Latest Security Pack
From: Walter Knapp <>
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:26:10 -0400
Barb Beck wrote:

> They have John Neville's address and are forging it to get onto the list.
> At least that is what it looked like on the one message I expanded the
> header on and looked at on my server (Open BSD - UNIX)

I could not tell if it was a spoof from elsewhere, or if his machine is 
the infected one. I knew I'd seen the address, but could not remember 
who's it was. I've been through a couple rounds of having my address 
spoofed, not much you can do if it's not your machine, except field any 
angry email. Some won't believe me when I tell them my mac cannot be the 
source. I'd have to manually construct a virus mail for one to be sent 
from here.

> Those just tick me off.  Some are getting really dangerous.  They are
> scanning mail and getting addresses and peoples names subjects and content.
> They make it sound like it is really a message from a person you correspond
> with and have even a plausible attachment.  I was ready to open one when I
> somehow glanced at the address and my poor old senile mind actually
> recognized that it was not the address of the person it was supposed to be
> from.  Went into the server and sure enough it was some garbage.  Another
> one everything checked on and I opened it - LUCKLY it had contained a worm
> but had been stripped on the way to me.  WHEW!!  It is getting so bad I am
> going to start reading stuff on the server and bitch at people who send me
> html and refuse to use plain text.

Chris used to have a little bit of html he would include in any reply to 
anyone who used html email. A windows machine would die instantly, macs 
would labor like crazy to stay afloat and you could normally bail out. 
It opened new windows, which opened new windows, which opened new 
windows....as fast as your machine could do it. He hated html email, I'm 
not far behind, but more peaceful about it.

I've actually poked around in some of these windows viruses. Kind of 
like doing a post mortum on a mac as they are dead if they come here. I 
used to keep a little zoo of all the mac ones, but lost it somewhere 
back. Virtually all don't do anything with current mac systems, really 
old stuff.

> Mail is now being scanned by some unethical servers that it goes through
> getting to you.  Addresses subjects and some contact etc are harvested.
> Even if you post your address nowhere it is being picked up. Of course I
> have had my alias for years and three old addresses forward to that.  My
> addresses are all over the internet so I just grin and bear it with the
> spam.  The thing that really puzzles me is that I have a university address
> that does not forward anyplace and that I have NEVER used nor sent an email
> from.  It still gets 40 - 50 spams a day.

Chris' suicide was several years ago. I still maintain his address 
forwarding to mine. No mail of any kind has gone out under that address 
since he left us. And he get's just about as much spam as I do. 
Interesting how it shifts with time. Right now it's back to porn after a 
long run of paying off credit cards. Sounds like he's got a good credit 
rating.

Even some of the email addresses associated with my web space sections, 
which have never been used, ever, get spam.

> But still not as bad as the telemarketers and WE DO NOT HAVE THE NO CALL
> LIST!!  Our politicians probably bought off by the telemarketers.

I was amazed it worked at all. Been really nice here, keep at the 
politicians.

Walt




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